Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: System upgrade, woot!

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Cardiff
    Posts
    350
    Thanks
    24
    Thanked
    15 times in 14 posts
    • WhiteGiant's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P5Q-E (1901 BIOS)
      • CPU:
      • Intel E8400 @ 3.6Ghz / TRUE Black
      • Memory:
      • 8gb Corsair 4-4-4-12 @2.1v
      • Storage:
      • 2 x 500gb Seagate (RAID0) + Storage drives(1.7tb)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Powercolor 4870 1gb
      • PSU:
      • Enermax 500w (Modular)
      • Case:
      • Antec Nine Hundred v1
      • Operating System:
      • Win7 Home Premium
      • Monitor(s):
      • Belinea Artistline 22w
      • Internet:
      • Sky Max - oddly getting faster.

    Lightbulb System upgrade, woot!

    Ole' Bessy here is begginning to show her age as she hasn't had a full upgrade for around four years *gasp*.

    As such, I've budgeted £600 for a MB/CPU/RAM/GFX/PSU upgrade. Its been a while since I've done any decent research into 'whats hot' etc, so forgive me if I've made any glaring errors and please correct me. This is what I'm planning on getting shortly, coming in at a touch under £580 including delivery ;

    CPU : Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
    Mobo : Asus P5Q PRO P45
    RAM : OCZ 4GB Kit (2x2GB) DDR2 1066MHz/PC2-8500 Reaper Memory HPC
    GFX : Gigabyte HD 4870 512MB
    PSU : OCZ ProXStream 1000W PSU

    I'd provide links, but don't have the post count for it yet.

    The system will primarily be used for gaming, and I'll dabble with a little overclocking - nothing serious. Also once the system is up and running I'll double the memory to 8gb, and hopefully add another 4870 - hence the beefy PSU.

    I was hoping to be able to afford a couple of decent hard drives for a little RAID action, but the need for a new PSU has scuppered that idea.

    I was thinking the RAM might be a little excessive, but as its only £60 per 4gb why not? The only thing I haven't changed twenty times in the past week is the processor, it seems to be the best price Vs. performance available at the moment.

    Comments and suggestions greatly appreciated!

  2. #2
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Surrey
    Posts
    82
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    10 times in 10 posts
    • tonpal's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus M3A78-T
      • CPU:
      • AMD Athlon II x2 240
      • Memory:
      • Corsair DDR2 800MHz
      • Storage:
      • 64GB Crucial C300, 250GB Maxtor and 160GB WD Caviar Blue
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Powercolor HD3870
      • PSU:
      • Enermax Pro82+ 385W
      • Case:
      • Hiper Osiris
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 64 bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell E172FP and Dell U2312HM
      • Internet:
      • Eclipse ADSL2+

    Re: System upgrade, woot!

    Looks like a solid build. Couple of things you may wish to consider.

    A P5Q-E motherboard will give you a an e-sata and an additional gigabit LAN connection (iirc) for a modest bump in cost.

    The 1000W PSU seems a bit OTT. An 800W should be fine even if you add a second graphics card.

    If you are not doing any serious overclocking then some low latency 800MHz RAM would probably do the job as well as the 1066MHz but with the price of DDR2 at the moment that probably wouldn't be a great saving.

    Good luck with the build

  3. #3
    Hexus.trombonist
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    742
    Thanks
    72
    Thanked
    44 times in 36 posts
    • Powderhound's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P5Q-E
      • CPU:
      • Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz under a Xigmatek HDT-S1283
      • Memory:
      • 4GB OCZ Reaper HPC 1066MHz
      • Storage:
      • 750GB Samsung Spinpoint F1
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Powercolor ATI Radeon HD 4850
      • PSU:
      • Corsair TX650W
      • Case:
      • Antec P182
      • Operating System:
      • Windows Vista Home Premium, Ubuntu 8.10
      • Monitor(s):
      • Samsung T220 22"
      • Internet:
      • Plus.net Broadband Your Way Option 2

    Re: System upgrade, woot!

    For £600 I'd try to go for something like my system; spend less on the PSU and get a P5Q-E and a quad core. I'm running such as system off a Corsair TX650W, which will easily be good enough for your needs, I reckon.

  4. #4
    finding nemo staffsMike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    11,497
    Thanks
    197
    Thanked
    794 times in 741 posts
    • staffsMike's system
      • Motherboard:
      • evga 680i
      • CPU:
      • e6600
      • Memory:
      • geil ultra pc6400
      • Storage:
      • WD 320gb
      • Graphics card(s):
      • leadtek 8800 GTS 640mb
      • PSU:
      • ocz gameXstream 700w
      • Case:
      • akasa eclipse
      • Monitor(s):
      • dell 2007wfp and Lg L194WT
      • Internet:
      • pipex homecall

    Re: System upgrade, woot!

    I'd say the same as Powderhound near enough.

    The motherboard depends on what you want I suppose. The Asus boards are very feature rich, the Biostar boards are great value for money and DFI and more expensive biostar boards overclock like nobodies business.

    CPU wise there is the Q9450 but I'd probably spend the extra (assuming it's still a small difference) on a Q9550.

    If you want to go dual and this is for gaming then don't waste your money on the E8400 get the E5200, it's more than enough power for games and clocks nicely too.

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    London
    Posts
    235
    Thanks
    6
    Thanked
    10 times in 10 posts
    • EarlGrey's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASRock Z77-Extreme6
      • CPU:
      • 3570K @ 4.2GHz
      • Memory:
      • 16GB DDR3
      • Storage:
      • 256GB SSD + 2TB + 4TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • GTX 980 Ti
      • PSU:
      • 600 OCZ Stealthstream
      • Case:
      • Lian Li PC7-S
      • Operating System:
      • Win7
      • Monitor(s):
      • BenQ 120Hz 3D Vision
      • Internet:
      • Infinity

    Re: System upgrade, woot!

    1.21 gigawatts!?!

    The um, 1000W power supply is overkill, a good 500W would suffice, perhaps compromise and get a good 600-800W. Quality more important than quantity. You want to be working in the sweet spot of the powersupply, they are most efficient when running at about 80% capacity, not 40%...

    Also, you might benefit from the 1GB 4870 in the long term, it has already been shown to be better than the 512MB in some games and the difference will only become more pronounced with time.

    Good build though

  6. #6
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Surrey
    Posts
    82
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    10 times in 10 posts
    • tonpal's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus M3A78-T
      • CPU:
      • AMD Athlon II x2 240
      • Memory:
      • Corsair DDR2 800MHz
      • Storage:
      • 64GB Crucial C300, 250GB Maxtor and 160GB WD Caviar Blue
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Powercolor HD3870
      • PSU:
      • Enermax Pro82+ 385W
      • Case:
      • Hiper Osiris
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 64 bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell E172FP and Dell U2312HM
      • Internet:
      • Eclipse ADSL2+

    Re: System upgrade, woot!

    Quote Originally Posted by staffsMike View Post
    If you want to go dual and this is for gaming then don't waste your money on the E8400 get the E5200, it's more than enough power for games and clocks nicely too.
    The extra cache on the E8400 should give much better gaming performance than the E5200. Most Quads would blow the budget except maybe for a Q6600.

  7. #7
    finding nemo staffsMike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    11,497
    Thanks
    197
    Thanked
    794 times in 741 posts
    • staffsMike's system
      • Motherboard:
      • evga 680i
      • CPU:
      • e6600
      • Memory:
      • geil ultra pc6400
      • Storage:
      • WD 320gb
      • Graphics card(s):
      • leadtek 8800 GTS 640mb
      • PSU:
      • ocz gameXstream 700w
      • Case:
      • akasa eclipse
      • Monitor(s):
      • dell 2007wfp and Lg L194WT
      • Internet:
      • pipex homecall

    Re: System upgrade, woot!

    Quote Originally Posted by tonpal View Post
    The extra cache on the E8400 should give much better gaming performance than the E5200. Most Quads would blow the budget except maybe for a Q6600.
    Not at high resolutions, it counts for next to nothing.

    Low resolutions its good for about 10%.

  8. #8
    Senior Member Pob255's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    The land of Brum
    Posts
    9,945
    Thanks
    572
    Thanked
    1,196 times in 1,099 posts
    • Pob255's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus M5A99X EVO
      • CPU:
      • PhenomII x4 955 & CM Hyper 212+
      • Memory:
      • 2x 4gb Corsair Vengence 1600mhz cas9
      • Storage:
      • 250gb SATA Westerndigital + 500gb samsung +1tb Samsung
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus GTX560ti CuII
      • PSU:
      • Be Quiet E9 680w
      • Case:
      • HAF 912+
      • Operating System:
      • W7 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 21" ips something

    Re: System upgrade, woot!

    Quote Originally Posted by tonpal View Post
    The extra cache on the E8400 should give much better gaming performance than the E5200. Most Quads would blow the budget except maybe for a Q6600.
    You'd think that, but most test I've seen show a relatively small boost from the extra cache when two c2d chips are run at the same speed.


    a q6600 is another one to look at

    with ether the e5200 or q6600 then 800mhz memory will give plenty of overclocking head room

    if you're looking to do a big over clock on the e8400 then 1066mhz memory is needed, if you're not planning to overclock then 800mhz is all you'd want.

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Cardiff
    Posts
    350
    Thanks
    24
    Thanked
    15 times in 14 posts
    • WhiteGiant's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P5Q-E (1901 BIOS)
      • CPU:
      • Intel E8400 @ 3.6Ghz / TRUE Black
      • Memory:
      • 8gb Corsair 4-4-4-12 @2.1v
      • Storage:
      • 2 x 500gb Seagate (RAID0) + Storage drives(1.7tb)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Powercolor 4870 1gb
      • PSU:
      • Enermax 500w (Modular)
      • Case:
      • Antec Nine Hundred v1
      • Operating System:
      • Win7 Home Premium
      • Monitor(s):
      • Belinea Artistline 22w
      • Internet:
      • Sky Max - oddly getting faster.

    Re: System upgrade, woot!

    Thanks for the responses, much appreciated! - Keep em coming! One thing I should say, I only can warrent a big upgrade every 3 or so years, so this must last a while!

    As suggested here's the new spec,

    CPU : Same as before, I can't see the benefit of quad core at a lower speed, as few games currently utilise this feature(?)
    Mobo : Asus P5Q-E P45 Socket 775 - next model up from my previous choice.
    RAM : OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800Mhz/PC2-6400 Memory GOLD DUAL CHANNEL Unbuffered CL5(5-5-5-18) (£35.99 - Vs. £60 for the 1066 stuff, useful change as my overclocking will be light).
    GFX : The jump from 512meg to 1gb seems huge with regards to price, is it really worth it?
    PSU : I thought 1000w was a little mental, I have a relatively new Enermax 500 modular, but I don't feel confident it could run a new system, so suggestions are welcome for this!

    Once again, ta for the replies!

  10. #10
    Gundam Infinite's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Southport
    Posts
    1,647
    Thanks
    150
    Thanked
    122 times in 93 posts
    • Infinite's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI GD80
      • CPU:
      • Intel i5 750
      • Memory:
      • Kingston 16GB
      • Storage:
      • 120GB OCZ Agility 3
      • Graphics card(s):
      • GTX 460 SLI
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX 650W
      • Case:
      • Silverstone TJ09B-W
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Pro - 64-bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell S2309W
      • Internet:
      • Infinity

    Re: System upgrade, woot!

    that enermax should be fine

  11. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Cardiff
    Posts
    350
    Thanks
    24
    Thanked
    15 times in 14 posts
    • WhiteGiant's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P5Q-E (1901 BIOS)
      • CPU:
      • Intel E8400 @ 3.6Ghz / TRUE Black
      • Memory:
      • 8gb Corsair 4-4-4-12 @2.1v
      • Storage:
      • 2 x 500gb Seagate (RAID0) + Storage drives(1.7tb)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Powercolor 4870 1gb
      • PSU:
      • Enermax 500w (Modular)
      • Case:
      • Antec Nine Hundred v1
      • Operating System:
      • Win7 Home Premium
      • Monitor(s):
      • Belinea Artistline 22w
      • Internet:
      • Sky Max - oddly getting faster.

    Re: System upgrade, woot!

    Based on the quote "Avril Lavrile is a female force."

    Any other opinions?

  12. #12
    finding nemo staffsMike's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    11,497
    Thanks
    197
    Thanked
    794 times in 741 posts
    • staffsMike's system
      • Motherboard:
      • evga 680i
      • CPU:
      • e6600
      • Memory:
      • geil ultra pc6400
      • Storage:
      • WD 320gb
      • Graphics card(s):
      • leadtek 8800 GTS 640mb
      • PSU:
      • ocz gameXstream 700w
      • Case:
      • akasa eclipse
      • Monitor(s):
      • dell 2007wfp and Lg L194WT
      • Internet:
      • pipex homecall

    Re: System upgrade, woot!

    That PC will barely pull 300W. New components are becomming more energy efficient and lower in the power reuquirements. They will also continue to do so therefore 500W is ample.

    Blitzen on here is using the 625W enermax to run an overclocked Q6600 and 2 x HD4870 system with no issues just as one example.

    If you are still going for the E8400 I think you are buring £80 that you really don't need to. The E5200 is the better chip bang for buck as it gives all the performance you need (and will still overclock to 3.0GHz+).

  13. #13
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Surrey
    Posts
    82
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    10 times in 10 posts
    • tonpal's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus M3A78-T
      • CPU:
      • AMD Athlon II x2 240
      • Memory:
      • Corsair DDR2 800MHz
      • Storage:
      • 64GB Crucial C300, 250GB Maxtor and 160GB WD Caviar Blue
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Powercolor HD3870
      • PSU:
      • Enermax Pro82+ 385W
      • Case:
      • Hiper Osiris
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 64 bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell E172FP and Dell U2312HM
      • Internet:
      • Eclipse ADSL2+

    Re: System upgrade, woot!

    I would say the Enermax would be ok too.

    Attached is a link to a website with a PSU calc on it.

    http://web.aanet.com.au/SnooP/psucalc.php

  14. #14
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Cardiff
    Posts
    350
    Thanks
    24
    Thanked
    15 times in 14 posts
    • WhiteGiant's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P5Q-E (1901 BIOS)
      • CPU:
      • Intel E8400 @ 3.6Ghz / TRUE Black
      • Memory:
      • 8gb Corsair 4-4-4-12 @2.1v
      • Storage:
      • 2 x 500gb Seagate (RAID0) + Storage drives(1.7tb)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Powercolor 4870 1gb
      • PSU:
      • Enermax 500w (Modular)
      • Case:
      • Antec Nine Hundred v1
      • Operating System:
      • Win7 Home Premium
      • Monitor(s):
      • Belinea Artistline 22w
      • Internet:
      • Sky Max - oddly getting faster.

    Re: System upgrade, woot!

    Hmmm, that calc suggests I should just about get away with using my current PSU.

    Removing the PSU allows me to add a couple of drives for a bit of RAID action - we'll have to see if the PSU can handle it all!

    Thanks for the thoughts guys, now I've just gotta save a little more cash . . .

  15. #15
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Surrey
    Posts
    82
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    10 times in 10 posts
    • tonpal's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus M3A78-T
      • CPU:
      • AMD Athlon II x2 240
      • Memory:
      • Corsair DDR2 800MHz
      • Storage:
      • 64GB Crucial C300, 250GB Maxtor and 160GB WD Caviar Blue
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Powercolor HD3870
      • PSU:
      • Enermax Pro82+ 385W
      • Case:
      • Hiper Osiris
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 64 bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell E172FP and Dell U2312HM
      • Internet:
      • Eclipse ADSL2+

    Re: System upgrade, woot!

    Quote Originally Posted by staffsMike View Post
    If you are still going for the E8400 I think you are buring £80 that you really don't need to. The E5200 is the better chip bang for buck as it gives all the performance you need (and will still overclock to 3.0GHz+).
    I have found a review that compare the E5200 with an E8200. Overall it supports the view that the E5200 is fine for gaming. Of course the performance of the E8200, and therefore the performance of an E8400, is better.

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...pdc-e5200.html

    It is really a personal decision as to whether the performance gain is worth spending the extra cash on.

    I think staffsMike has already voted "no".

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. System unbootable after RAM upgrade
    By DG-- in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 23-02-2008, 06:04 PM
  2. Computer reset and corrupted SYSTEM folder
    By Dreaming in forum Help! Quick Relief From Tech Headaches
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 09-01-2008, 01:05 PM
  3. In desperate need of an upgrade!
    By Allen in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 30-12-2007, 08:10 PM
  4. Advice on an upgrade
    By Disturbedguy in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 16-11-2007, 08:29 PM
  5. Abit NF7-S revision 2 information
    By Lee H in forum SCAN.care@HEXUS
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 30-10-2004, 07:13 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •