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    unreal engine dev PC base only, £700 total, buy 12th Nov 2014

    Hi.

    Im looking for a new PC for a friend who wants to dev ue4 games , with the recommended spec being a quad core with 16gb and a good gfx card.

    I'm looking at this from Novatech, which is an i5 4460 and 750 ti.. and adding the windows 8.1 for £640, plus £60 for another 8gb ram
    http://www.novatech.co.uk/pc/range/n...acknti112.html


    It seems well balanced for the price, I could build the same for him for approx £5 less, so not worth it as I can then farm out support as well.

    I'm giving him a 24" 1080p hdmi screen as well as a usb more and keyboard to get him started.

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    Re: unreal engine dev PC base only, £700 total, buy 12th Nov 2014

    Get a better graphics card - at least a GTX760 or GTX770.


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    Re: unreal engine dev PC base only, £700 total, buy 12th Nov 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Get a better graphics card - at least a GTX760 or GTX770.
    I'd like to, getting caught between balance of sdd size, gfx and ram.

    Full specs I'm looking at.
    I5 4460
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    16gb ddr1600 CAs 9
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    1 tb HDD
    650w PSU
    Case.

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    Re: unreal engine dev PC base only, £700 total, buy 12th Nov 2014

    Definitely listen to CTF and get a better GPU. Personally, i would look at self built AMD options as well, might find you have more flexibility with a 6/8 core AM3 part.

    I don't think 16GB of RAM is necessary off the bat, you could get a single 8GB stick then another 8GB stick later. Dual channel RAM doesn't make huge difference to performance so don't worry there.

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    Re: unreal engine dev PC base only, £700 total, buy 12th Nov 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    Definitely listen to CTF and get a better GPU. Personally, i would look at self built AMD options as well, might find you have more flexibility with a 6/8 core AM3 part.

    I don't think 16GB of RAM is necessary off the bat, you could get a single 8GB stick then another 8GB stick later. Dual channel RAM doesn't make huge difference to performance so don't worry there.
    Yep been listening to CTF for a while ;-)

    I've been looking at the fx 8320 and 270x as a bundle in the
    http://www.novatech.co.uk/pc/range/n...lacknta35.html

    As I'd agree that's needed,but its not my cash :-(

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    Re: unreal engine dev PC base only, £700 total, buy 12th Nov 2014

    Only thing with UE4 - does it have Nvidia specific features in it?? APEX and PhysX are integrated into the engine - however I don't know whether any AMD specific technologies will be either,especially with the consoles having AMD GPUs.

    Generally under £200,AMD tends to be better value IMHO though,although I heard from a dev,Nvidia cards might be a bit easier to develop for(I cannot independently confirm this though).


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    Re: unreal engine dev PC base only, £700 total, buy 12th Nov 2014

    Thanks.

    I just don't feel right recommending a fx 8320 nowadays, but its probably worth it over the 6300

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    Re: unreal engine dev PC base only, £700 total, buy 12th Nov 2014

    Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit £66.98
    GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3P AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) Motherboard £49.99
    Novatech Cougar ATX Case with PWM Fan £24.98
    Samsung 224DB 24x DVD Re-Writer - SATA - Black - OEM £12.98
    XFX ProSeries 550W Core Edition Power Supply - 80 PLUS Bronze Certified £46.99
    Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - Retail £83.99
    Microsoft Windows 8.1 Operating System - OEM - 64 Bit £79.98
    MSI Radeon R9 280 TwinFrozr IV GAMING OC 3GB GDDR5 £149.99
    Radeon Gold Rewards - Choose 3 Free Games £0
    AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8320 3.50Ghz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £104.99
    Western Digital Caviar Green Power 2TB 64MB Cache Hard Disk Drive SATA 6Gb/s <8.9ms - OEM £65.99
    Total: £686.86 inc VAT


    Gives me a better GFX card, double the SDD size, 8GB less ram, and a different case ( minus the funky front panel) for £100 less.

    Anything I'm missing or you would recommend changing?

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    Re: unreal engine dev PC base only, £700 total, buy 12th Nov 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfsbane2k View Post
    Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit £66.98
    GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3P AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) Motherboard £49.99
    Novatech Cougar ATX Case with PWM Fan £24.98
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    XFX ProSeries 550W Core Edition Power Supply - 80 PLUS Bronze Certified £46.99
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    AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8320 3.50Ghz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £104.99
    Western Digital Caviar Green Power 2TB 64MB Cache Hard Disk Drive SATA 6Gb/s <8.9ms - OEM £65.99
    Total: £686.86 inc VAT


    Gives me a better GFX card, double the SDD size, 8GB less ram, and a different case ( minus the funky front panel) for £100 less.

    Anything I'm missing or you would recommend changing?
    I would stick with an Nvidia GPU for the reasons CTF mentioned above. There will be no compatibility issues with doing this.

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    Re: unreal engine dev PC base only, £700 total, buy 12th Nov 2014

    Hard to say on the dev side of things, esp the nvidia vs amd gpu, there's no need to pair an nvidia with intel or amd gpu with amd cpu.
    A lot will depend what he's developing and what it's for.

    in theory if he's working on a pc game then he'll need a range of hardware for testing/optimization.

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    Re: unreal engine dev PC base only, £700 total, buy 12th Nov 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Pob255 View Post
    Hard to say on the dev side of things, esp the nvidia vs amd gpu, there's no need to pair an nvidia with intel or amd gpu with amd cpu.
    A lot will depend what he's developing and what it's for.

    in theory if he's working on a pc game then he'll need a range of hardware for testing/optimization.
    Well unreal engine, which the main thing mentioned, is historically/typically Nvidia favoured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    I would stick with an Nvidia GPU for the reasons CTF mentioned above. There will be no compatibility issues with doing this.
    I was looking at that, but the 760 is more expensive e than the r280, and generally slower, so baulking at the choice.

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    Re: unreal engine dev PC base only, £700 total, buy 12th Nov 2014

    unfortunately the gtx960 has been pushed back until q1 next year

    if he's looking at a pc game, then he'll want support for both nvidia and amd gpu's, but again depends exactly what he's doing and it's the sort of thing he should know.
    I don't expect him to know what's the best card or best value for money card but he should know roughly what he needs and which would be better suited for him.

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    Re: unreal engine dev PC base only, £700 total, buy 12th Nov 2014

    OK, going with 8350 and 760 instead due to availability.

    Can anyone recommend and alternative PSU as well that's at stock at Novatech?

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    Re: unreal engine dev PC base only, £700 total, buy 12th Nov 2014

    Going xfx 650w PSU and jumping to the 770

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    Re: unreal engine dev PC base only, £700 total, buy 12th Nov 2014

    Changing to r9 290 instead

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