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    Re: Picked up 4x 3TB WD Red Pro Drives and a NAS..but...!!

    Should be the size of a ITX case (judging based on handling 1,2 & 4 bay Synology NAS).

    Guess it costed the same as a second hand 1.6L car

    EDIT: too bad you haven't explored the possibility of a custom ITX with Synology software.

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    Re: Picked up 4x 3TB WD Red Pro Drives and a NAS..but...!!

    I'd be very interested to see how you get on with all that kit. I really do need to invest in a decent NAS setup at home. Save running my PC all the damn time to access things over the network for streaming etc.

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    Re: Picked up 4x 3TB WD Red Pro Drives and a NAS..but...!!

    Quote Originally Posted by unospace View Post
    I'd be very interested to see how you get on with all that kit. I really do need to invest in a decent NAS setup at home. Save running my PC all the damn time to access things over the network for streaming etc.
    Can always go for custom but with Synology you have a pretty easy job. Very intuitive.

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    Re: Picked up 4x 3TB WD Red Pro Drives and a NAS..but...!!

    Setting it up @ the hotel. Been quite painless - the most challenging bit was to getting it to 'show' up on the LAN. Being hotel wifi their system presents a web-login type deal. So I switched to my tethered mobile link, and that gave the NAS a 192.168.0.2 IP - found it instantly.




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    Re: Picked up 4x 3TB WD Red Pro Drives and a NAS..but...!!

    Looks serious. Quad core 2.4 GHz, 2GB RAM (+4GB via expansion), 4 x 1Gbit aggregated LAN connection.

    Is it heavy to carry? Since you mentioned you will carry it once in a while.

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    Re: Picked up 4x 3TB WD Red Pro Drives and a NAS..but...!!

    The enclosure itself is quite light. Starts to get heavy with 4x drives added!! So I'll be taking 'em out and packing them back into their antistatic sleeves. Will also carry them by hand but in separate hand-luggage bags.

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    Re: Picked up 4x 3TB WD Red Pro Drives and a NAS..but...!!

    Hmm. Wouldn't it be easier and safer for the drives to stay in the "NAS" (NAS on steroids) and pad out the carry bag/box for the NAS? Instead of taking them out and in and out...static, dirt,handling accidents, all can happen.

    Will you go for RAID 5 with one or two drive redundancy?

    Fancy thing, you can add one later to max out the capacity and the system will offer you to either add the disk into the array for additional capacity or redundancy

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    Re: Picked up 4x 3TB WD Red Pro Drives and a NAS..but...!!

    Sorry to steal the thread, but what's the use of having a NAS? As a user like myself (don't have many films, nor much music stored locally - all on my drive account) would there be much point?
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    Re: Picked up 4x 3TB WD Red Pro Drives and a NAS..but...!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MrRockliffe View Post
    Sorry to steal the thread, but what's the use of having a NAS? As a user like myself (don't have many films, nor much music stored locally - all on my drive account) would there be much point?
    Is the question toward all the users here or only toward "bsodmike"? I have a NAS and we love it. Access all your files, multimedia or otherwise all the time. Have the ability to carry out file movements while you are still traveling, etc.

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    Re: Picked up 4x 3TB WD Red Pro Drives and a NAS..but...!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MrTwoChins View Post
    Im just trying to do 20 posts
    It will be questioned, as they "need" to be constructive. Can't you contribute anything to the thread?

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    Re: Picked up 4x 3TB WD Red Pro Drives and a NAS..but...!!

    Towards all members who wish to offer some advice
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    Re: Picked up 4x 3TB WD Red Pro Drives and a NAS..but...!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MrRockliffe View Post
    Towards all members who wish to offer some advice
    -Stream multiple files simultaneously (daddy watches "Precious" on the PC, mummy watches "Care bears" on the tablet and the little one watches "Rambo" on a smart phone).
    -Back up data (files/folders) from individual devices (PCs,laptops,tablets,smartphones) and store them separate from the physical source (your PC can crash, laptop can be stolen and the smartphone can be smashed, yet your backed up data will be safe, like on a cloud).
    -Share file(s) independently.
    -Run multimedia servers and services (Plex,Torrent,iTunes).
    -Work as a surveillance machine (monitor,record,replay).

    Loads of uses (right now I use all but the surveillance option, no cameras).

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    Re: Picked up 4x 3TB WD Red Pro Drives and a NAS..but...!!

    I'm back home now and transported the drives in my hand-luggage bags; the enclosure has two 't-shirts' stuffed on the two-sides that would receive most contact in my crumpler shoulder-bag.



    Yup! As you said, I added the 5th drive in, as I picked up two more Red Pro drives (total of x6 drives!) expanded the array and also grew the volume. Caveat! It took 3-days for the array to expand... and I did this without UPS backup... eeeek!!!



    At the moment it's a single-drive redundancy; it's RAID6 iirc that offers 2-drive or SHR. I avoided SHR as I have no plans of using disks of different sizes in the array. From what I've read, that's the only benefit of SHR (Synology Hybrid RAID).

    Last weekend I picked up 2x 1.2kVA APC UPS's, only one has been installed so far.




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    Re: Picked up 4x 3TB WD Red Pro Drives and a NAS..but...!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MrRockliffe View Post
    Sorry to steal the thread, but what's the use of having a NAS? As a user like myself (don't have many films, nor much music stored locally - all on my drive account) would there be much point?
    Here's something I enabled today - it's called iSCSI, which as per my FB post

    "Rocking my first iSCSI LUN formatted as HFS+ Journaled and mounts as a 'real HDD' via iSCSI. It won't be as quick as the local SSD, but I'm toying with development off this iSCSI volume.

    Right now, all client files sit in this space - bonus is that I can switch to another Mac, load the same iSCSI Target (as long as it hasn't already been mounted; caveat!), and continue where I left off."

    So, in short, I can 'mount' an external 'volume' as a local HDD rather than a 'shared volume' (Samba/AFP etc.)


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    Re: Picked up 4x 3TB WD Red Pro Drives and a NAS..but...!!

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    Right now, all client files sit in this space - bonus is that I can switch to another Mac, load the same iSCSI Target (as long as it hasn't already been mounted; caveat!), and continue where I left off."
    Luckily the Synology units default to 1 connection per iSCSI target, you have to tick a checkbox on the iSCSI target to override.

    Was there a reason that an AFP or Samba share wasn't good enough? Seems less faffing than disconnecting/reconnecting iSCSI targets...
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    Re: Picked up 4x 3TB WD Red Pro Drives and a NAS..but...!!

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    Luckily the Synology units default to 1 connection per iSCSI target, you have to tick a checkbox on the iSCSI target to override.

    Was there a reason that an AFP or Samba share wasn't good enough? Seems less faffing than disconnecting/reconnecting iSCSI targets...
    Yeah, and overriding should only be done if the filesystem is cluster-ready (think there's Oracle/VMWare and another M$ option). I found that via AFP/Samba, performance wasn't great for developing via the share. It was super sluggish.

    Right now, I've got a 500GB LUN target that'll be permanently mounted for dev-stuff (still on the 14-day period for globanSAN) and its performing very nicely.

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