Back to Watercooling?

[SilentDeath]

Here is how I would order cooling solutions based on least cost for a new system with very high end compnents for which cpu, gpu, nb etc.. need new heatsinks:

DIY w/c (under £50)
commercial air
commercial w/c
DIY waterchiller using compressor
DIY phasechange (move up to top *if* you can find a suitable compressor and know what your doing)
Commercial phasechange
TECs.

In order of performance (based on how much the enabled overclock will increase performance in games. GPU counts for about 5x or more than cpu for games, although for encoding video etc. cpu would obviously favour cpu overclock):

DIY phasechange
TECs
DIY waterchiller using compressor (and not TECs)
Commercial phasechange
Commercial w/c
DIY w/c (under £50)
commercial air

Commercial p/c being crap becuase they are cpu only.

Both TECs and compressors (not so much 12v ones) use up a largish chunks of power, so elec. bill aswel..

[StormPC]

Get help.

[Smokey21]

Meh...water sucks. It's fun to play with but it sucks as a solution. It's much more expensive and high maintenance than air and in many cases it doesn't cool any better which sucks as a 24/7 solution. As an overclocking tool it sucks as well because DI, LN2 and phasechange will completely destroy watercooling for benchies.

Water is great to drink but sucks for use in computers unless you just can't figure out anything else to do with all of that free time.

Kez,

I never said you can't put water on your hardware. I only said it doesn't accomplish anything that I consider valuable.

can you see your spleen being so far up your ass?

[Butcher]

Really? Of what?

Water cooling obviously. At least I assume it's jealousy, the alternatives are much less flattering to you.

[Scarlet Infidel]

I get the impression he is rich/spoilt and could get any kind of cooling he wants. So im afraid its not jealousy.

[Allen]

Meh...water sucks. It's fun to play with but it sucks as a solution. It's much more expensive and high maintenance than air and in many cases it doesn't cool any better which sucks as a 24/7 solution. As an overclocking tool it sucks as well because DI, LN2 and phasechange will completely destroy watercooling for benchies.

Go speak to some guys at O-CuK and see some real results of overclocking with water. They know how to do it and it's very effective. Even the most expensive kit is about half the price of a phasechange unit (well, a new one anyway). Obviously Phasechange is more effective, but it's also very expensive.

You've obiously only ever seen DIY kits poorly done or those cheap and poor Globalwin kits or the like. If you were to see the results of even the basic DangerDen parts put together you wouldn't have made those comments.

[bujinkan-ka]

Watercooling can be done quite cheaply if you can scavange certain parts. Like taking a radiator from a car.

[Smokey21]

Storm, what are your XTPE clocks?

[Butcher]

I get the impression he is rich/spoilt and could get any kind of cooling he wants. So im afraid its not jealousy.

There's more to watercooling than just throwing money at it.

[Scarlet Infidel]

Very true, but you dont need any of those things if you can throw money at it.

[StormPC]

Storm, what are your XTPE clocks?

That bench was months ago but I believe I was running 660/612. The RAM on that card really sucked. The card was on roomtemp water. I can run the same clocks on air with that card. My 24/7 clocks are 620/600 on that rig with aircooling. Also my RAM was trash.

Here's a challenge. Anybody want to take me up on it?

Build any water-cooled system you wish. Tell me how much you spent and bench it with the benchmark(s) of your choosing. I'll build an air-cooled system for less money and I'll kick your arse in the benchmarks as well.

So who wants some?

[Scarlet Infidel]

Well that sounds like fun. When ive finished my exams ill sort out my system and we'll see what you can do.

[Nox]

Build any water-cooled system you wish. Tell me how much you spent and bench it with the benchmark(s) of your choosing. I'll build an air-cooled system for less money and I'll kick your arse in the benchmarks as well.

So who wants some?

Not chance, a water cooling would win hands down, be 100% silent and cost around £30. As long as you didn't want it to be portable.

Nox

[StormPC]

What water cooled rig do you have?

[Nox]

I don't, check your pm's tho.

Nox

[SilentDeath]

That bench was months ago but I believe I was running 660/612. The RAM on that card really sucked. The card was on roomtemp water. I can run the same clocks on air with that card. My 24/7 clocks are 620/600 on that rig with aircooling. Also my RAM was trash.

Here's a challenge. Anybody want to take me up on it?

Build any water-cooled system you wish. Tell me how much you spent and bench it with the benchmark(s) of your choosing. I'll build an air-cooled system for less money and I'll kick your arse in the benchmarks as well.

So who wants some?

Was that at stock voltage?