Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 17 to 32 of 37

Thread: bsod help

  1. #17
    Senior Member chrestomanci's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Reading
    Posts
    1,610
    Thanks
    92
    Thanked
    95 times in 79 posts
    • chrestomanci's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus AMD AM4 Ryzen PRIME B350M
      • CPU:
      • AMD Ryzen 1600 @ stock clocks
      • Memory:
      • 16Gb DDR4 2666MHz
      • Storage:
      • 250Gb Samsung 960 Evo M.2 + 3Tb Western Digital Red
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Basic AMD GPU (OSS linux drivers)
      • PSU:
      • Novatech 500W
      • Case:
      • Silverstone Sugo SG02
      • Operating System:
      • Linux - Latest Xubuntu
      • Monitor(s):
      • BenQ 24" LCD (Thanks: DDY)
      • Internet:
      • Zen FTTC
    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    Have you any usb devices connected to your system, eg.broadband modem. Does the fault still occur with them disconnected?
    Good point egg. The Alcatel speedtouch 330 is particulary notorous for causing BSOD.

    To be sure, I would disconnect all USB periferals except for your keyboard and mouse

  2. #18
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    135
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    Unfortunately it can't be usb because I tried system on minimum set-up and even disconnected the usb leads from the mobo.

  3. #19
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    135
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    Getting annoyed now. Blue screens seem to be getting worse, especially at high load.

    Is it possible that this could be a problem with the processor?? I know page faults and irq errors are normally associated to RAM but I think I have eliminated the ram from being the problem as the same happens if I remove one stick or the other (it is highly unlikely the same fault could happen with 2 different sticks of ram)

  4. #20
    Gentoo Ricer
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Galway
    Posts
    11,047
    Thanks
    1,016
    Thanked
    944 times in 704 posts
    • aidanjt's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus Strix Z370-G
      • CPU:
      • Intel i7-8700K
      • Memory:
      • 2x8GB Corsiar LPX 3000C15
      • Storage:
      • 500GB Samsung 960 EVO
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA GTX 970 SC ACX 2.0
      • PSU:
      • EVGA G3 750W
      • Case:
      • Fractal Design Define C Mini
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Asus MG279Q
      • Internet:
      • 240mbps Virgin Cable
    You know BSoDs do happen just because of a crap driver, in fact most BSoDs happen because of that, it could also happen if the kernel is corrupt, when was the last time you reinstalled windows?.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    ...every time Creative bring out a new card range their advertising makes it sound like they have discovered a way to insert a thousand Chuck Norris super dwarfs in your ears...

  5. #21
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    135
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    It is a fresh install of windows and it happened during windows install also so i don't think it can be a driver issue. Can anyone suggest a decent diagnostic utility or a way I can check that the cpuis not faulty without having to replace it.

  6. #22
    Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    108
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1 time in 1 post
    • Reapsy's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus PB5-E
      • CPU:
      • Core 2 Duo E8600
      • Memory:
      • 2048MB Corsair DDR2 5400
      • Storage:
      • 150GB Raptor, 750 GB WD, 80GB Maxtor
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA 8800GTX
      • PSU:
      • PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad
      • Case:
      • A big black one
      • Monitor(s):
      • 24" HP LP2475w
      • Internet:
      • 56kbps ADSL
    Whats the BSOD error code? Sometimes you can get an idea of whats wrong from putting that into google.

  7. #23
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    135
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    This is the problem, the error codes are not consistant and I am recieving a different one each time, ranging from 'page fault in nonpaged area' to 'irq not less or equal'. The stop codes are invariably 100000050, 100000008e, 100000007e etc but no one is more frequent than another.

    Does this seemingly random pattern of errors point towards dodgy or incompatable ram? I am going to take a chance and replace the processor because I have tried removing a stick of ram at a time and using different slots and the errors still happen. ITS STARTING TO PISS ME OFF!

  8. #24
    Senior Member chrestomanci's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Reading
    Posts
    1,610
    Thanks
    92
    Thanked
    95 times in 79 posts
    • chrestomanci's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus AMD AM4 Ryzen PRIME B350M
      • CPU:
      • AMD Ryzen 1600 @ stock clocks
      • Memory:
      • 16Gb DDR4 2666MHz
      • Storage:
      • 250Gb Samsung 960 Evo M.2 + 3Tb Western Digital Red
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Basic AMD GPU (OSS linux drivers)
      • PSU:
      • Novatech 500W
      • Case:
      • Silverstone Sugo SG02
      • Operating System:
      • Linux - Latest Xubuntu
      • Monitor(s):
      • BenQ 24" LCD (Thanks: DDY)
      • Internet:
      • Zen FTTC
    have you run memtest86+ yet?

    You can download a small iso image and make a bootable CD. I would not trust any other memory tester, especialy not anything that runs in windows.

    It will find most memory errors very quickly (less than 5 minutes) but to be sure you should let it run for some time to make sure it finds everything. At least overnight, preferably 24 hours or more.

    Let us know the outcome.

  9. #25
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    135
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    Yes, have run memtest 86 for 5 passes. Will try running for longer and let you know the outcome.

    Do you think that these type of faults could be the result of a faulty processor? I have heard that defective cpu cache, of which my processor has 2mb could be the culprit.

    Thanks in advance!

  10. #26
    Senior Member chrestomanci's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Reading
    Posts
    1,610
    Thanks
    92
    Thanked
    95 times in 79 posts
    • chrestomanci's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus AMD AM4 Ryzen PRIME B350M
      • CPU:
      • AMD Ryzen 1600 @ stock clocks
      • Memory:
      • 16Gb DDR4 2666MHz
      • Storage:
      • 250Gb Samsung 960 Evo M.2 + 3Tb Western Digital Red
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Basic AMD GPU (OSS linux drivers)
      • PSU:
      • Novatech 500W
      • Case:
      • Silverstone Sugo SG02
      • Operating System:
      • Linux - Latest Xubuntu
      • Monitor(s):
      • BenQ 24" LCD (Thanks: DDY)
      • Internet:
      • Zen FTTC
    If memtest86+ has run for 5 complete passes and not found anything, then it is unlikely you have faulty memory. The other possibilities are your CPU, motherboard or hard drive.

    The only way you can eliminate your CPU or motherboard are to try swapping them out. It is fairly irrelevant to discuss which parts of your CPU might be faulty as you cannot replace or repair those parts.

    You might try booting from a knoppix disc or the like and seeing if you get similar crashes from linux. If you don't it would suggest that either your hard drive is somehow corrupting the windows files stored on it, or alternatively a bit of faulty hardware is confusing windows and making it crash, and that linux is less susceptible.

    Unfortunately it is very hard to work out what the problem is. If you brought your CPU, motherboard and memory from the same supplier, I would consider getting an RMA on all three, as it will be very hard to identify the culprit.

  11. #27
    Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    108
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1 time in 1 post
    • Reapsy's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus PB5-E
      • CPU:
      • Core 2 Duo E8600
      • Memory:
      • 2048MB Corsair DDR2 5400
      • Storage:
      • 150GB Raptor, 750 GB WD, 80GB Maxtor
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA 8800GTX
      • PSU:
      • PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad
      • Case:
      • A big black one
      • Monitor(s):
      • 24" HP LP2475w
      • Internet:
      • 56kbps ADSL
    Quote Originally Posted by mathewdbarlow View Post
    This is the problem, the error codes are not consistant and I am recieving a different one each time, ranging from 'page fault in nonpaged area' to 'irq not less or equal'. The stop codes are invariably 100000050, 100000008e, 100000007e etc but no one is more frequent than another.

    Does this seemingly random pattern of errors point towards dodgy or incompatable ram? I am going to take a chance and replace the processor because I have tried removing a stick of ram at a time and using different slots and the errors still happen. ITS STARTING TO PISS ME OFF!
    It does sound like a memory problem too me. Although it could be caused by all the thing mentioned before. Have you tried upping the voltage slightly to the ram?

  12. #28
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    135
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    I haven't messed around with voltages at all. My knowledge of voltages / overclocking is pretty limited and I didn't want to do something wrong and fry something.

    My voltage control is set to automatic in the bios, how much would be reasonable to increase this by before I am risk of doing any damage?

    It might be worth mentioning that I tried adjusting the speed down to 400mhz but this causes the machine to restart and then it is unable to post. This can only then be rectified by clearing the bios cache.

  13. #29
    Old Fool!
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Cambridgeshire
    Posts
    1,029
    Thanks
    11
    Thanked
    37 times in 31 posts
    • EtheAv8r's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS Maximus V Gene
      • CPU:
      • i5 3570K @ 4500 Mhz
      • Memory:
      • 16Gb
      • Storage:
      • 2 x Samsung EVO 850 SSD; 1 x Samsung 2TB HD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • nVidia GeForce GTX 970
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic S-12 650 Energy+
      • Case:
      • Corsair Carbide
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Home 64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2713H
      • Internet:
      • BT Infinity II
    This Branded PSU - how much did it cost?
    Try to make each and every day the best it can be.

  14. #30
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    135
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    Lots of people saying the psu might be the culprit. Its a cheapy i'm afraid. It only cost about £30 which is stupidly cheap for a 570w. It only gives out 16 amps on the 12v and I had a feeling that this might be the problem.

    However, the errors still occur with a thermaltake 450w supply that works fine in another system so I have eliminated the psu from the investigation.

    Whilst we're on the subject, I am going get a psu. Can anyone recommend a good quality one that comes with a 6 pin pci-e connector for less than £50?

  15. #31
    Old Fool!
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Cambridgeshire
    Posts
    1,029
    Thanks
    11
    Thanked
    37 times in 31 posts
    • EtheAv8r's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS Maximus V Gene
      • CPU:
      • i5 3570K @ 4500 Mhz
      • Memory:
      • 16Gb
      • Storage:
      • 2 x Samsung EVO 850 SSD; 1 x Samsung 2TB HD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • nVidia GeForce GTX 970
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic S-12 650 Energy+
      • Case:
      • Corsair Carbide
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Home 64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2713H
      • Internet:
      • BT Infinity II
    £30 for a 570 watt PSU! There is your (most probable) answer - your PSU. If a £30 PSU can do the job well why do you think other manufacturers sell a similar capacity one for £90 or even £110? There must be a good reason or no one would buy them.

    I believe more hangs and crashes of consumer PCs are due to poor PSUs than probably any other hardware related issue.

    A PSU is vitally important to a PC, the PSU is it’s heart. They not only supply electricity, they have to provide the right amount, and reliably and stability is hugely important.

    Get a really good (not half good) PSU. I recommend Seasonics, others will recommend such as Corsair (built by Seasonic but to a different recipe and not quite as good.... but nearly). There are a good half dozen quality PSU manufacturers.
    Try to make each and every day the best it can be.

  16. #32
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Posts
    135
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    I suspect you might be right. I turned up the voltage in the bios for the ram and it has made it alot better (although the problem is still there) I shall have to wait til payday to purchase a new psu and then I will let you know of my findings.

    I have never had this problem before even though I have built many systems, its typical of the way things are going I suppose, with higher spec machines soaking up more and more juice. In future I will never be seduced by high wattage, cheap psu's and will always go for a established brand.

    Thanks very much for your help anyone who replied, without such a good response I think I would have replaced every part but the power supply and would have thrown the whole lot out of the window by now.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. BSOD when starting P2P
    By JPreston in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 31-12-2005, 01:06 PM
  2. BSOD after new parts installed
    By Katoshi in forum Help! Quick Relief From Tech Headaches
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 07-12-2005, 01:49 PM
  3. Help - BSOD - new system
    By Mako159th in forum Help! Quick Relief From Tech Headaches
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 05-10-2005, 01:46 PM
  4. ATi + Java + BSOD?
    By Kezzer in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11-06-2005, 01:26 PM
  5. Machine_Check_Exception BSOD
    By pcloon in forum Help! Quick Relief From Tech Headaches
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 05-04-2005, 07:42 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •