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    Help!
    I have built my new system around my new ecs C19-A SLI mobo but after installing windows I have periodic bsod errors that happen normally at periods of high load.
    The errors are different each time and range from page "error in non paged area" bsods to "IRQ not less or equal"
    My system is:
    C19-A SLI mobo
    p4 630 3.0ghz 800fsb 2mb cache
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    160gb seagate hd
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    570watt branded psu

    The processor runs at 65 degrees at full load and 49 idle and system temp is low at about 40.

    I have used memcheck which found no errors in the ram, the hard drive works fine with no errors in another system, the errors occur without the vga card plugged in and on a previous mobo I was having similar problems. These errors also happened during windows xp install so it is not an issue with any drivers I have installed.

    What I need to know is whether these errors could be caused by a faulty processor and how to check without obtaining a new one. Is there a way to isolate exactly which component is to blame by reading the error logs in event viewer? Could the temp of the ram be to blame as errors occur at high load after about 30 minutes.

    Any help with this would be greatly appreciated as I want to play Medievel Total War for more than 10 minutes!!!!!

    Thanks guys!

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    65C is way too hot, you'll need to beef up the cooling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    65C is way too hot, you'll need to beef up the cooling.
    I disagree. It is a bit higher than ideal, but not high enough to be the source of the problems.

    In any case, if heat is the cause it is easy to test, just run your system with the cover off, and direct a large desk fan at the CPU cooler.

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    I'm sure the cpu overheating is not the problem, I am more worried about the ram temp being the problem. Is this a common problem?? The thermal spec of a p4 630 chip is about 80 degrees, does anyone know what the ram is?

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    Run memtest86 and find out, you can find it as part of most linux distro cds and livecds.
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    or just download the small memtest ISO so you don't have to download a 600 meg linux distro just to use memtest.
    It is Inevitable.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    Run memtest86 and find out, you can find it as part of most linux distro cds and livecds.
    Read his post, before posting. he says that his memory has already passed the memtest errors.

    Have you changed anything in your system recently or updated any drivers? Can you remember your config the last time the pc was stable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathewdbarlow View Post
    Help!
    I have built my new system around my new ecs C19-A SLI mobo but after installing windows I have periodic bsod errors that happen normally at periods of high load.
    The errors are different each time and range from page "error in non paged area" bsods to "IRQ not less or equal"
    My system is:
    C19-A SLI mobo
    p4 630 3.0ghz 800fsb 2mb cache
    1gb infineon 533mhz 4300 ddr2 ram
    160gb seagate hd
    xfx 7900gs 256mb vga
    570watt branded psu

    The processor runs at 65 degrees at full load and 49 idle and system temp is low at about 40.

    I have used memcheck which found no errors in the ram, the hard drive works fine with no errors in another system, the errors occur without the vga card plugged in and on a previous mobo I was having similar problems. These errors also happened during windows xp install so it is not an issue with any drivers I have installed.

    What I need to know is whether these errors could be caused by a faulty processor and how to check without obtaining a new one. Is there a way to isolate exactly which component is to blame by reading the error logs in event viewer? Could the temp of the ram be to blame as errors occur at high load after about 30 minutes.

    Any help with this would be greatly appreciated as I want to play Medievel Total War for more than 10 minutes!!!!!

    Thanks guys!
    You say its a 'branded' PSU.....which one and what are the stated rails on it?

    Quote Originally Posted by chrestomanci View Post
    I disagree. It is a bit higher than ideal, but not high enough to be the source of the problems.

    In any case, if heat is the cause it is easy to test, just run your system with the cover off, and direct a large desk fan at the CPU cooler.
    I disagree aswell.
    Although thats hot, its still not overheating enough to cause BSOD.
    The thermal throttling would occur and shut down the system before a BSOD would appear.

    1. WHat memory timings have you got (is it OC'ed as this is classic memory timing symptoms whether memtest has passed or not).
    2. Tell us about this PSU you have.

    Its definitely one of the two thats causing this.
    Last edited by Blitzen; 10-01-2007 at 02:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_kinton View Post
    Read his post, before posting. he says that his memory has already passed the memtest errors.
    No, he said memcheck, not memtest86. Read his post before posting.

    If memtest cant turn up any errors then you don't have problems there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    No, he said memcheck, not memtest86. Read his post before posting.

    If memtest cant turn up any errors then you don't have problems there.

    I did read the post......and you have said this 3 times needlessly already.

    Like i said, and forget memcheck for a minute if you can.
    Start swapping modules in and out.

    Mem tested or not,.......this IS classic memory syptoms.

    If you think its heat related fella you are way off the mark.

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    memtest86 not memcheck.

    They're two entirely different programs.

    memtest86 isn't operating system dependent/limited.
    Last edited by aidanjt; 10-01-2007 at 02:31 PM.
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    Right!
    The power supply is a trust pci-e 570watt. Could this be the problem???

    The ram is not overclocked and bios shows it is being supllied with 1.8v.

    As for installing new drivers etc, this cannot be the problem as it is a clean install on a new hd and problems also occurred during xp installation

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    http://www.trust.com/products/product.aspx?artnr=14888
    This is the link to manufacturers spec page for psu

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    run memtest for a good few passes (take a few hours) just to gain confidence in it.
    It is Inevitable.....


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    Exactly

    You can get a skinny memtest ISO at http://www.memtest.org

    Just burn it to disc, and reboot.
    Last edited by aidanjt; 10-01-2007 at 02:58 PM.
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    Have you any usb devices connected to your system, eg.broadband modem. Does the fault still occur with them disconnected?

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