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About LinkBacksWhy no warranty? water spillage? If a leaktest is done properly, then spillage wont happenOriginally Posted by Paulm@scan
Why no warranty? water spillage? If a leaktest is done properly, then spillage wont happen
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Watercooling placement:(put it on the back on a radbox, I did it on a V1000 and it worked fine)
Where on the back? Surely that would interfere with VGA/DVI cables, audio & other peripherals coming out of the pc, not to mention take up space at the back of the computer and increase noise as it's not inside a case.
(you sure that those fans are powerful enough to effectively blow air through the dual rad?)
I compared it up against an OC-Uk watercooled system using a 3x120mm rad with 36CFM fans, so surely dual 72CFM fans would cool better?
I am trying to build a quiet system as well as one that can perform quite well.
(have a look on fleabay, seller called silencio_777 plenty of yate loons available - they are the same as nexus, but without the uk price premium)
Just a note, I haven't paid the price Premium on both the apogee GT cpu block, gpu block & Nexus fans that i've already ordered, even if I do get done for VAT on the shipment it still works out waay cheaper than buying the parts from a UK store, gotta love the current USD to GBP exchange rate.
I always leak test for at least 24 hours and check on the pipes once a week. I've pretty much always built my own pc's as it saves on build time (by whatever company ordered from) and on money, I have fried a couple motherboards in my time from self builds but that was when I wasn't too much in the know as it we're.
(also consider the vibration, especially in your case)
If installed properly using anti-vibration methods then there shouldn't be any. Also, are you confusing my V2100 case with the Vented (load of holes, heh) V2000 case? as my one does have sound insulated foam in it, granted some will have to be removed at the top for the top rad but the rest will remain.
For gpu cooling - dual rad to be mounted at the front top of the case taking up one of the 5.25" bays, reservoir to be placed in one of the upper 5.25" bays, pump to be mounted to the side panel.
For cpu cooling - dual rad to be mounted at the back bottom of the case underneath the Enermax Galaxy PSU, I will have to move the HDD racks a little bit forward, but that shouldn't be a problem. Reservoir to be placed in one of the lower 5.25" bays, pump to be mounted to the side panel.
Which should leave enough room for the tubing.
£1k you say, got a spec to show me for that money?To be honest £3200 is a lot of money especially for a computer, take into account the high depreciation of computers (new kit coming out etc) I think the money could be much better spent.
You could get a super PC for just around a grand, and the performance wouldn't be too far off the above system, then it gives you a bit more money to play with.
Why not get SCAN to build you the system, as if I had that much money to spend I'd get someone else to build it all so it saves me the hassle etc.
Obviously if you want to spend £3200 then go ahead, however it all depends on what you use your PC for, let us know what you want the PC to do, and how you want it to look etc (SFF / silence etc) and then it can be better tailored
Ian
I've had a look at the 3XS systems, where is the watercooling option?
Would a single Alphacool Black Ice GT Stealth II (Dual 120mm) Radiator with dual 72CFM fans & Alphacool Laing DDC-Pump 12V Ultra be enough to cool an Overclocked Quad-Core QX6700 & 8800GTX card?
Edit: ignore this, I just noticed you are getting a pair of raptors, so all the advice for a quiet system is wasted
Last edited by Clunk; 24-01-2007 at 07:10 PM.
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I haven't ordered the rad as of yet, only the fans, cpu block & gpu block as it was far cheaper 2 purchase from the US than UK, let alone finding UK stock. The fans should arrive early february (latest) so I'll test to see how loud they are, they are rated at 72CFM @ 14Db and I don't call that to be noisy imho.
Have you seen the DDC Ultra Pump?
As it's not the normal size of normal pumps, a lil smaller.
Ah, I see, you have already ordered all this? I was thinking you were after help with buying.
Silenx noise/cfm ratings are notoriously nonsense
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Ah, well there is always the fan control option.Ah, I see, you have already ordered all this? I was thinking you were after help with buying.
Silenx noise/cfm ratings are notoriously nonsense
I'll say again, the only products that I've already ordered are the cpu block, gpu block & fans.
How noisy are the raptor drives, Db wise?
Do you have any photo's that you could post of the radiator mounted on the back of the V1000 case?
Thanks.
The raptors will get on your nerves, unless you are stone deaf. No idea of the db rating of them, but I have a single one, and it is in a Scythe quiet drive and it is still the loudest thing in my system by quite a long way.
An early photo of the V1000 with the rad on the back.
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My god that radiator is huge, is that 6 fans I see on that rad?The raptors will get on your nerves, unless you are stone deaf. No idea of the db rating of them, but I have a single one, and it is in a Scythe quiet drive and it is still the loudest thing in my system by quite a long way.
An early photo of the V1000 with the rad on the back.
Is that 1/2" ID tubing that your using there? (quite big)
Hmm, i'm not a fan of noisy computers (who is?) and I'd like to strive for a reasonably quiet yet with good performance of a pc, do you think i'd notice much different between twin 10,000RPM SATA150 raptors on RAID-0 and twin 7200RPM SATA300 HDD's on RAID-0, performance wise?
That is a PA120.3 the entire pc was almost silent. There are 3 x yate loons on the back, there are 1 x 120x38mm empty fan casing and a radbox as a spacer to keep it out of the way of any cables in the back.
yes, the tubing is 1/2" ID clearflex, same as the dangerden stuff you are planning on.
I actually ended up with the rad flipped over and sat flat on top.
As for the raptors, they are fantastic and fast, but seriously noisy. In my current case G70, the noise is amplified, even when it is in the scythe quiet drive, in the v1000, it was a lot quieter, but still annoying. You may not find them as loud as me, but its best to be prepared
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Whoa, just checked out the review of the Raptor on SilentPCReview.com and Idle noise isn't too bad but Seek sounds like a Buzzer going off, that would drive me mad. The Seagate 750GB drive is also quite noisy so I'll probably end up getting WD 500GB drives all around.
A few points:
-Why get quad core? Yes it will help in Supreme Comm, but is it really worth it, are you happy with spending so much? Gonna be a long time till quad core is used, hell Dual core isn't really.
-Why bother with water cooling? Have you ever used it before? Trust me it's more trouble that it's worth. Don't bother with it, and get Dual GPU's.
-Why a 8800GTX? R600 is right around the corner, at least wait and see what thats like.
Yep, the idle noise isnt bad, but they really do get loud when they are working hard, and there is also quite a lot of vibration from them as well.
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If I didn't bother with WaterCooling and just went with Air Cooling then surely dual 8800GTX/R600's on air cooling would be noisy as hell? At least with watercooling I can use low rpm fans on the radiator to keep the noise at acceptable levels while overclocking the cores a bit.
Right, revised the spec:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Extreme Quad-Core QX6700, 775, 2.66 GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 8MB Cache, Retail
Motherboard: Either the ASUS Striker Extreme or the Gigabyte N680SLI-DQ6
GPU: Either the Asus 8800GTX, or EVGA 8800GTX KO Superclocked card
Memory: 2Gb (2X1Gb) Corsair TwinX DDR2 XMS2 Dominator, PC8500, 240 Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered,CAS 5-5-5-15, EPP
Primary HDD: 2x 320 Gb Western Digital WD3200YS RE SATA300, 7200 rpm on RAID-0
Extra HDD's: 4x 500 Gb Western Digital WD5000KS Caviar SE16
PSU: 1000W Enermax EG1000EWL V2 Galaxy Modular PSU
Case: Lian-Li PC-V2100B Plus [My Current Case]
OS: Microsoft Windows Vista 32Bit OEM
WaterCooling (1 Loop) [1/2" ID]
De-ionized Water with Zerex Cooling Solution
Zalman Super Thermal Grease ZM-STG1
Swiftech Apogee GT CPU Waterblock [On Order]
Swiftech MCW60 VGA waterblock with MCW60 G80 adapter plate, MC14 BGA RamSinks & MicroCool MosfetSink's [On Order]
ThermoChill PA120.3 (Tripple 120mm) Radiator
>ThermoChill PS120 Performance Shroud
>>ThermoChill NG120 Neoprene Gasket
SilenX 120mm - 14dBA - 72CFM iXtrema Pro LED Fan x3 (for Radiator) [On Order]
Alphacool Laing DDC-Pump 12V Ultra
Typhoon Single 5.25" Bay Reservoir
DangerDen UV Reactive Tubing
It saves modding time and gives me more room in the case with only 1 Loop as you guys have advised me. I'll install the rad in the bottom of the case, ditch one of the HDD racks and install a 5.25" HDD expansion kit for any additional HDD's I get over the 6 allotted.
All I need to know now is:
1) Which is the better board between the ASUS Striker Extreme and the Gigabyte N680SLI-DQ6?
2) Should I buy a standard ASUS 8800GTX card and Overclock it manually or buy the pre-overclocked EVGA 8800GTX KO Superclocked card at a £60 price difference?
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