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About LinkBacksnoo i think if your children really doin your head in you should have the right to give them clip round the head ..lol
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noo i think if your children really doin your head in you should have the right to give them clip round the head ..lol
I'm of the exact same camp as autopilot. The sucky parents (who make up way to big a portion of the population) need corporal punishment taken away from them(better yet they shouldn't have had kids, can we outlaw future bad parents from having kids, that would be a better solution).
Beating up children never did me any harm either...Originally Posted by dangel
Beat the hell out of the little sods.
Never did me any harm.
I just wanted to quote that..
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Hell no ... How are you supposed to discipline your children if you cant even smack them when they have been really bad ?
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And that statement there pretty much sums up what's wrong with parenting and it's impact on society.
I hope to god you don't have kids.
86% of folk here disagree. What's wrong with parenting? Simple: far too many parents take no interest *whatsoever* in their children - be it talking to them or a smack (where appropriate). Note there's a vast difference between a smack on the back of the legs and a closed fist to the face (shame we can't be sensible and differentiate).
And that statement there pretty much sums up what's wrong with parenting and it's impact on society.
I hope to god you don't have kids.
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Hmmm, I'm not sure I agree with what I said in 2004! If I did ever have kids, I don't think I could bring myself to smack them - I'd just punish them by taking away privileges. I must be mellowing in my old age.
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You are absolutely right they take little interest, that's partly why they have to use smacking. But what i said was in response to "How are you supposed to discipline your children if you cant even smack them when they have been really bad ?". God help us is 86% can't see any other way of disciplining children other than smacking at all. But in hindsight, i don't think he actually really means that. I hope so anyway.
If you read my previous post you would see that i did indeed differentiate. You would also see that it's irrelevant to my argument for why it should be band. A lot of children don't and can't differentiate, but they don't need to. They simply learn that hitting someone is acceptable way to react to something you don't like. They have little concept of force or degree of pain, that's irrelevant. They just learn to avoid being hit by their parent, not that what they have done is wrong. Also, some parents take it too far, not out of a desire to abuse them, but simply because they don't know what else to do. Take away the easy and ultimately pointless method and force them to gain some skills.
FFS it's the 21st century. We don't still need to use pain compliance on children any more.
Its a good way of teaching a kid a lesson, dont see the problem
No shouldnt be banned, but it isnt that nice when people really whack thier kids in public
Yeh but i mean a quick smack isnt exactly the most shocking thing you see out and about is it.
I would point out that, assuming you're referring to the poll results (which is currently 90%) 86% answered "No" to whether it should be illegal. The fact that that 90% want the option to remain certainly doesn't imply that they see no other way to discipline children. It just implies that they don't want to see smacking criminalised.
Personally, I certainly don't believe it should be illegal, but nor do I believe it should be the primary method of discipline. It should be simply one tool in a parent's armory and, hopefully, a rarely used one. But nor do I believe the state can micro-manage parenting to that level. The parents are the ones on the scene, not the legislators. Provide some boundaries (as they have) between what constitutes a "smack" and what constitutes a legal assault/battery by all means, but an outright ban on smacking is, in my view, both unnecessary and counter-productive.
What I would support, however, is more (much more) effort and funding in the field of educating parents with child-rearing skills. If parents weren't dropped in the deep end with little or no support or education, perhaps the incidence of a smack would be more restricted to when it's really needed to get the message across, and not used inappropriately or in anger, which it never should be.
So while I'd agree that smacking may be used far too often, for the wrong reasons and in the wrong way, that's a reason for educating parents, not for making it illegal. IMHO.
havn't read this thread, just decided to add my opinion..
if they had not banned smacking children, we wouldnt be in a chav filled society of scum bags with no respect for anyone, and i will smack my children when i have them, regardless of the law, in my house i am the law
and infact the last little bastids that decided to knock on my window and run off were caught and frog marched home in a headlock, i told the parents to deal with it or i would.
funnily enough my street is scum bag free now they know i dont give a **** and may make a mess of there sweet little faces...
I think being able to smack children is a good last resort, it also means they know that if they don't listen to you there is a worse punishment than simply being told off.
Remove privileges, have a naughty corner/step, give choices (if you continue to do X then Y will happen), instead of saying don't say do etc (there are many others - maybe others will add to list list - as it maybe useful to hear what techniques other use instead of smacking
even then I still smack, but haven't felt the need to for years with the 5 year old, and months for the 3 year old. Mainly because routines and expectations of behaviour have now been set
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