XP SP2 : List of programs that need "tweaking" to work.

[shamus21]

it won't be to long before windows comes with AV software...

The sooner the better bobby sixkiller i was thinking they were going to put it in with SP2 still may be end of year.

[Jimmy Little]

yeah i guess it would make sence for them to make one,

[cpu121]

I think they are already producing one (it's been expected of them since they bought an AV firm a while back anyway), but they can't include it in windows because of Anti Trust Laws.

[Jimmy Little]

what do they mean by anti trust laws? and why can't they include it?

[directhex]

antitrust being anti-monopoly - include antivirus with windows, kill other av companies.

[iMc]

so including an internet explorer and a firewall and a defrag tool is ok!? seems a bit messed up to me. if they have everything else then why not an AV. Its probably the most important anyway. crazy laws...

[directhex]

so including an internet explorer and a firewall and a defrag tool is ok!? seems a bit messed up to me. if they have everything else then why not an AV. Its probably the most important anyway. crazy laws...

actually IE already caused some rather large & lengthy antitrust trials, they were ended when the republicans took power iirc

[iMc]

The way i see it they shouldnt have one rule for one app and another rule for another. It makes no sense that way. Either allow MS to bundle whatever they wish or not to bundle any extras at all. Either way it should be made easy for the average pc user to access free versions.

[Jimmy Little]

the laws are crazy! if one company is in a postion to be able to make a product they feel is better then they should be able to

[Dave_07]

Noticed some peeps talking about newer versions of sp2, can you get a up-to-date version as a fresh new installer eg get the latest ver through v5, or do you have to like get the final release candidate then update through that ?

Cheers, Dave.

[Agent]

the laws are crazy! if one company is in a postion to be able to make a product they feel is better then they should be able to

couldnt disagree more.
making a product is one thing, bundling it with the OS is another.

[Jimmy Little]

couldnt disagree more.
making a product is one thing, bundling it with the OS is another.

i see your point but, i reckon MS could make the best AV software, that works best with windows and worked best at keeping out virus's

[directhex]

well their firewall is full of holes, as is their media player, web browser, etc.

you honestly think they could NOT screw up when it comes to virus scanning, and would feel safe?

[Paul Adams]

well their firewall is full of holes

It is?

[directhex]

http://weblogs.asp.net/rchartier/arc...06/174165.aspx combined with http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3583860.stmseems relatively fairly insecure

[Paul Adams]

http://weblogs.asp.net/rchartier/arc...06/174165.aspx combined with http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3583860.stm seems relatively fairly insecure

The BBC report is talking about the IE security zone/scripting issue, this is not part of the firewall.

On the weblog, as someone has already pointed out, this method assumes you have the facility to execute programs on the target machine - it is not remotely exploitable.