abix ab9 problem

[darkmonki]

ok im new here but i really need help
i was just woundering, when i connect my power supply up. i have a 24/20 pin connecter thing
so i use 4 pins to go into the part for the cpu yes?
and i put 20 in the main power supply.
but the problem i have. is that if i dont plug into the cpu 4 pin. i get the post code 8.7 and it shuts down.
if i then plug in the cpu power supply i get the post code 8.2 which i dont understand cause im fixing the 8.7 problem.

my psu is akasa 400W
AP-P040FG7
any help would be appriciated

[Agent]

Check that you have the 3pin header in the correct "CPUFAN" header.

Also what's your system specs (including the exact model of PSU).
8.7 can be caused by a underpowered PSU.

[darkmonki]

what you mean full system spec? i gave the model number of the psu
im half way thru building my first pc
are you saying i might not need 4 pins in the 4 pin thing?

[Agent]

what you mean full system spec? i gave the model number of the psu
im half way thru building my first pc
are you saying i might not need 4 pins in the 4 pin thing?

Sorry, I missed the model number

Full spec, as in - What CPU, Graphics card, HD's, motherboard, ect.... that you are using.

You need the 4 pin connector in as well as the 20pin ATX one.
Ideally you need a PSU that has a 24pin connector and the 8pin EPS one.
Dont forget about that hidden molex one by the PCI-e slot too!

[Agent]

I cant find an exact match for your PSU, nearest I can find is the AK-P040FG7 ?

[darkmonki]

oh right
umm atm, well you know the motherboard, its got intel core 2 duo 2.66 ghz cpu, graphics card nothing yet (long story), hd is a 400gb SATA, its got 2 gb ddr ram.

i just dont get why with just 20 pins in (no 4 in the ) it reaches 8.7 but as soon as i put in the 4 next to the cpu it only makes it to 8.2

[Agent]

Oh, I see what you're saying now....

Even though 8.7 is higher than 8.2, it doesn't work in sequential order (ie, it can get further in the boot sequence and show a small number).

The uGuru system also uses Hexadecimal, so it uses letters up to F as well as numbers

Besides, you cant even start to work out if anything is wrong without a graphics card being present - its part os the POST sequence

[darkmonki]

really? i heard it had like an inbuilt one and can run alright by itsself.

you got any idea why its doing it?

[Agent]

Also, 2.66 ghz = A E6700?

Thats a lot off a 400watt 20pin PSU. When running a system that powerful, you really need to invest in a modern one (24pin ATX, with a 8pin EPS connector, and idealy with more wattage / amps)

[Agent]

really? i heard it had like an inbuilt one and can run alright by itsself.

non of the AB9 series have on-board graphics as far as I know (just checked the Abit site and the Ab9 Pro, Ab9 and QuadGT dont have it).

You must be plugging the monitor into somthing? where is it going? - Directly into the board (if this is the case - you may have the wrong model in mind ), or have you installed a graphics card in one of the slots on the board?

you got any idea why its doing it?

Doing what exactly?

[darkmonki]

lol all i got at the moment is a half open case, with a mother board, cpu, ram, hdd in in. im just trying to get this bit to run before i put in the graphics and disk
drive. but seeming as the computer wont even stay on. i dont really wanna carry on,

and i ment the doing the part where it turns it self off after about 10 seconds or just never powers up with the error 8.2

[Agent]

Okay - the graphics card is a critical part of a computer. It will not boot without one. I don't know who told you it has one on-board, but they need a smack (surely alarm bells started to ring when you couldn't plug the monitor into anything though? )

The computer wont stay on because its hitting an error. You can not begin to diagnose this error though until you have all the essential parts in

That said, as I said above, the PSU could well cause issues.

What graphics card are you planning to install?

As you are new to this (don't want to sound patronising, just checking ), but you do have thermal paste on the CPU right?

[darkmonki]

you mean that stuff that was on the cpu when i took it out? it arrived today lol
and basicly (correct me if im chatting breeze) i was gonna use all my parts to my old pc. monitor, speakers, and i was planning to switch over the graphics card. i have no idea what the graphics card currently is lol
but this pc wont run without a graphics card which is why i wanted to make sure it worked before switching if you get me ?
as for the monitor, it will still boot up without one, so that will be last plugged in. after i know it doesnt wanna die after 10 secs

[Agent]

It will boot up without a monitor yes - but the only way you will have to confirm this is via the display getting to FF

How old is your "old" PC?
Are you aware that within the last couple of years (probably less to be honest!) there was a big switch from the old style cards (known as AGP) to the new ones called PCI-express. The two are not compatible.

If your old system has one of these AGP graphics cards, it will not work in your new system (it physically wont fit for a start )

[darkmonki]

yeh i did know about that. same guy who told me about the inbuilt one. lol
im gonna be a bit pissed off if its the psu. im not exactly rich any more :/ and for another £50 psu i think i can only just afford one....
so your saying check out the graphics card i have.. if it fits. try booting it up with that graphics card in. if not, buy one?

[Agent]

Got it!
The machine wont boot without a graphics card installed. Period.
Like I say, ive checked the Abit site (I was fairly sure before) but if it is the AB9 you have, there isnt one onboard.

Just in case, look for one of either of these anywhere on the board...



If the board has one of those, its either the wrong board or im going blind and cant locate it on the Abit site

If you can find out the model of the graphics card (or even describe it to us in detail) we can tell you what type it is