Theater 650 Pro Discussion

[Octavean]

I just feel the need to post a precision over the 100-703261 vs 100-715331 part number. I purchased a TV Wonder 650 a few days ago and when I received a card with the part number 100-703261, I was a bit disappointed since I thought it wasn't the "fixed version". I contacted ATI and apparently the two product numbers has nothing to do with the card itself: the 100-703261 is for the Canadian market (with packaging in French and English) while the 100-715331 is for the US market (packaging in English only). So if you live in Canada and see a 100-703261 on the box, it's normal.

That is interesting to hear.

However, I still remain skeptical.

If there is no functional difference between the USA version and the version intended for the Canadian market then there would really be no reason to differentiate between the two on the hardware level. A printed manual isn’t really necessary and a set of manuals in multiple languages could easily be made available on the install CD.

If I am not mistaken, the TV Wonder 650 wasn’t available in Canada during the initial launch before the recall. I suppose I could be wrong about that but the early reports after the recall and re-release seem to indicate:

Pre-recall: 100-703261
Post-recall: 100-715331

that’s presumably within the US market

http://forums.hexus.net/showpost.php...&postcount=291

FYI,

--Don

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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8406411&&#post8406411

ati seems to have re-added the 650 back to their product page, and is being advertised on the main page.

The thing is that the item that is listed now, has got a different product.

before recall, it was product # 100-703261.

a few days later when it re-appeared it now has product # 100-715331

I don’t think ATI ever really addressed what they were doing with the recalled cards. Not publicly identifying the cards that were recalled is a bit shifty IMO and makes it difficult or almost impossible to tell if your supposedly new card was actually sold before. The fact that these cards were physically re-worked also doesn’t help to identify them as new or originally recalled products.

For all we know, many of the 100-703261 cards in the Canadian market are recalled cards from the US market. Since ATI gave us no way to make such identification its an open question.

[kxreaper]

I am having a problem getting new ati drivers installed on my puter with my new tv wonder 200 install on my puter.

so ati gives me this link and tells me to uninstall,then reinstall,
only 1 problem,look...(step 2)


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Removing Old ATI Software

1.Click on Start, then Control Panel, then go to Add/Remove Programs.

2.At the top of the list you should see several ATI entries. Select the entry entitled (((ATI Software Uninstall Utility))), and click Change/Remove.

3.You will be prompted to restart your system once the uninstall is complete.

4.Once restarted, check the Add/Remove Programs list again for any remaining ATI software.

5.If any ATI software is still listed, click Change/Remove on those entries to uninstall each one individually.

6.Next, please scroll through the list until you find an entry called DAO (see screenshot below).

7.Select DAO, then Click Change/Remove to uninstall this program

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notice step 2


Select the entry entitled (((ATI Software Uninstall Utility))), and click Change/Remove.

ok now with no uninstall utility HOW ARE YOU GOING TO UNINSTALL ANYTHING =P ????????????????


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so anyways i reinstalled to get the uninstall and uninstalled everything but

CATALYST MEDIA CENTER DVD AUTHORING MODULE

(i get severe error "This software may only be installed with non-trial
PowerCinema setup will abort")


i have had alot of problems with ati in the past,having to install old drivers cause new drivers etc etc etc...i may be done with ati....



HOW DO I UNINSTALL """CATALYST MEDIA CENTER DVD AUTHORING MODULE""" any sugg's ??

how can ati sell something that cant be uninstalled,that should be illegal...

[Super XP]

Have you tried using Driver Cleaner Pro? Also, you can download the ATI Un-Install Utility.

I've seen them somewhere.

[jonaslasky]

HOW DO I UNINSTALL """CATALYST MEDIA CENTER DVD AUTHORING MODULE""" any sugg's ??

how can ati sell something that cant be uninstalled,that should be illegal...

You poor guys are still talking about that piece of crap otherwise known as the Theater 650!!? here is the answer to your problems. I wonder why ATI doesn't just make it easy to uninstall their drivers in the first place. The whole company needs a software overhaul. Bugs have been piling up on top of bugs and they've done nothing to fix it. To be fair lots of tech companies are in the same boat. Buggy unmanageable software that no one wants to revisit after they're SORT OF done. But ATI I think is one of the special cases. Anyway
This link has the ATI uninstaller file.

http://support.ati.com/ics/support/d...uestionID=1447


Have a good one!

Jonas

[Octavean]

The "Catalyst Media Center DVD Authoring Module" is either a component of Cyberlink MakeDVD 2.0 or Cyberlink MakeDVD 2.0 itself. It is not likely a driver and it is not at all likely ATI software but rather ATI licensed software from Cyberlink. Catalyst Media Center uses Cyberlink MakeDVD 2.0 for DVD Authoring / burning.

To attempt to uninstall it you could try downloading the Cyberlink MakeDVD 2.0 trial and install it / uninstall it. Cyberlink software such as PowerDVD, PowerCinema and MakeDVD automatically uninstalls any previous installations upon installation of a newer version within the install program.

[Limech]

Anybody know if the ATI Theater 650 Pro is compatible with Windows Media Encoder 9? I need it to be compatible to upstream (aka broadcast) video.

I think it needs WMD compatible drivers, does it?

Thanks!

[razee]

hi all.
Sorry if this question has been asked before. I read up to page 10 and ran out of steam.
My question is this.
How and where do i get my hands on a tv wonder 650 that takes a PAL signal?
There is no computer shop in Europe that sells them. I bought one on ebay but then I remembered the NTSC thing and so canceled the order.
Cheers..

[Octavean]

New PCIe version of the ATI TV Wonder 650 review here:

ATI TV Wonder 650 Combo PCI Express

http://www.hothardware.com/articles/...Review/?page=2

Supposedly, so I hear, it has concurrent tuner functionality to make up for the woeful omission of this feature during its first release. This is probably due to the technical problems that the nonconcurring design creates in some software packages and the fact that there are cheaper hybrid tuners with concurrent functionality like the following:

AVerTV Combo PCIe (M780) tuner which also supports QAM.

It makes sence to revive the TV Wonder 650 design though because comparatively speaking it was an expensive product with quirks and fewer features then some aggressively competing products.

****edit***

And there it is:

Unlike ATI's PCI-based TV Wonder 650, this new PCI Express version features a pair of tuners, which give users the ability to record one channel while watching another.

[Octavean]

http://ati.amd.com/products/tvwonder650/pcie/index.html

[Seraphic-]

Anyone know how to set the card to capture in a 4:3 or 16:9 aspect ratio?

[denyart]

It captures in whatever format the original content is in. 4:3 SD is captured 4:3. ALL OTA material is 16:9, even if it is really only a 4:3 picture. The broadcaster adds the pillarbox bars to make a standard 16:9 ratio. I don't believe there is any control to do anything else. You can sometimes set compression rates for SD shows, but aspect control is "as-is".

[abbymat]

i want to capture in PAL at 720 x 576 to AVI with Huffyuv, which gives a better picture quality the Theater 550 or 650 ?

thanks

[bratsantom]

Seraphic could you please tell me what software you are using for video capture? I am having some serious trouble with the catalyst crap and blaze media pro wont capture it. I would really appreciate it.

[Seraphic-]

Seraphic could you please tell me what software you are using for video capture? I am having some serious trouble with the catalyst crap and blaze media pro wont capture it. I would really appreciate it.

Since I can't get my TV Wonder 650 to capture at 640x480, I have since moved to a card that allows for component capture. However, when I used the 650, one of the programs I used was VirtualDub and it works a lot better then CMC.

[firstdue]

Hello, I have been trying to find a video calibration setting somewhere. I notice when i have an external source hooked to my 650 (doesn't change if its s-vid or composite) that i have a 1/4" black bar on the right hand side of the screen? Its not there when i watch any of the over-the-air channels.
I am running XP with the ATI X1300 with Catalyst Media Center. Also the slight lag is very annoying....I had used an AIW8500 before and had 0 lag.

Any suggestions or solutions would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks in advance!

[Lazarus]

Anyone seen a 650 PCI-E actually on sale in Europe yet?