Apple have gone Intel!!!

[Gordy]

Sad day tbh

Will complete the transition in two years.

Only bonus will be osx on pcs

[Jonny M]

Can't see how it's a sad day. The G5 was going nowhere. Topped out at 2.7GHz and kicking out a ton of heat, and no mobile part after 2 years?

[Oakey]

Only bonus will be osx on pcs

Don't bet on it. Apple's monopoly is in hardware, can you see anyone buying an overpriced Apple if they could just install it on their home built x86 system? Can you see Apple allowing this? No, I don't think so either.

[nvening]

I dont get why they dont go full 64bit like the itanium

[Jonny M]

I dont get why they dont go full 64bit like the itanium

I take it you haven't seen 64 bit Pentiums.

Edit: Itanium would also be a worse choice than the G5.

[Oakey]

http://news.com.com/Apple+throws+the...tag=macintouch

After Jobs' presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. "That doesn't preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will," he said. "We won't do anything to preclude that."

However, Schiller said the company does not plan to let people run Mac OS X on other computer makers' hardware. "We will not allow running Mac OS X on anything other than an Apple Mac," he said.

[nvening]

Caged, The x64 CPUs from Intel and AMD are not fully 64bit. They are extended 32bit. I do not suggest that apple use itaniums, but rather they develope a fully 64bit CPU. I know its alot to ask.

[Jonny M]

And you're bothered about 64 bit at this stage why exactly?

[zhou]

what are all the people who were going to buy a mac do now? i was going to buy one in the next couple of weeks, but i'll guess i'll just wait a year or two until the intels come out

[Oakey]

what are all the people who were going to buy a mac do now? i was going to buy one in the next couple of weeks, but i'll guess i'll just wait a year or two until the intels come out

Well... I suspect they're going to hold out... or buy a Mac.

What do you think they're going to do? Commit Hari-Kari? Lynch Steve Jobs?

[ikonia]

the AMD 64 bit chips are true 64 bit chips as far as I'm aware, as are the itaniums and itanium2's

[Hottentot]

The EM64 and AMD 64 are proper 64 bit chips but they carry a lot of baggage which enables them to run older x-86 32 bit code (unlike Itanium).

Surely this means the end of the Apple hardware , as people will just use the OS on a PC provided cheaper by someone else. Hey I could run the OS on any of my PCs once its out.

[Oakey]

The EM64 and AMD 64 are proper 64 bit chips but they carry a lot of baggage which enables them to run older x-86 32 bit code (unlike Itanium).

Surely this means the end of the Apple hardware , as people will just use the OS on a PC provided cheaper by someone else. Hey I could run the OS on any of my PCs once its out.

You obviously didn't read the entire post did you?

I suggest you check post #6

you know... if the thread was 6 pages long, this could be forgiven... but man... it was like six posts ago

[zhou]

well no doubt apples sales of their range of macs will drop like a lead balloon. you think they can hold out until they start mass producing their range of intel macs?

[Xaneden]

Yet another few percent to Intel's 80% market dominence.

IBM to Intel: The King is dead, long live the King

[Red10]

well no doubt apples sales of their range of macs will drop like a lead balloon. you think they can hold out until they start mass producing their range of intel macs?

The Apple systems are bought by non-tech people and students; in my opinion, technical/business decisions like this won't affect them, i.e. they won't really pay much attention to it.

Also, this is good news:

Going forward, Mac developers will be able to create universal binaries of their programs that will run on both types of chips.

So the older Mac users, like me, won't be cut off.