AMD - Piledriver chitchat

[Biscuit]

HP Sleekbook 6z review:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/13/h...ook-6z-review/

It costs around $600.

Sadly,a fail of a review. The laptop only has a single SODIMM meaning the APU is crippled. Moreover,they ignore the fact that you can get an A10-4655M with 6GB of DDR3 or 8GB of DDR3 for around $750 to $800:

http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/sh....do#anchor-top

Instead they say and go and get one the Envy Ultrabook 6t instead for around $800(since $200 is not much more). However,this comes with a SB ULV Core i5 or an IB ULV Core i5 for $25 more and single channel memory. When you bump up the memory to 6GB to 8GB of dual channel memory you are looking at another $50 to $100 more.

I posted this days ago... to slow CTF!

I think they actually do mention about the higher models in the review.

Engadget reviewed a trinity notebook from HP (Envy Sleekbook 6z)

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/13/h...ook-6z-review/

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I posted this days ago... to slow CTF!

I think they actually do mention about the higher models in the review.

I added clarification!!

[scaryjim]

Hmmm, HP have some unusual options on there for an APU-based slim/light laptop. No SSD options, a variety of single-channel memory options, ridiculous costs on upgrades - the only sensible option would be to spend the minimum on the entry level config ($600 == £450?), then another £100 or so on an additional 4GB RAM and 120GB SSD. So £550, for 8GB dual-channel DDR3-1600 and an SSD, and watch it beat the pants off all the Ultrabooks

[DanceswithUnix]

Athlon branded versions:
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/28...et-fm2-athlons
So as I see it, if 3.2GHz is a 65W TDP ad 3.4GHz is 100W TDP, then it can only just be into that 100W bin and there should be plenty of headroom?

I presume these will be versions with the integrated graphics disabled completely again. that seems a shame, leaving say 80 shaders would be nice, frankly on a desktop that is either enough or I need a discrete card anyway.

Of course a few less, they could have a "50 shaders of black edition"

[Biscuit]

Athlon branded versions:
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/28...et-fm2-athlons
So as I see it, if 3.2GHz is a 65W TDP ad 3.4GHz is 100W TDP, then it can only just be into that 100W bin and there should be plenty of headroom?

I presume these will be versions with the integrated graphics disabled completely again. that seems a shame, leaving say 80 shaders would be nice, frankly on a desktop that is either enough or I need a discrete card anyway.

Of course a few less, they could have a "50 shaders of black edition"

Haha, that made me chuckle

[c.ruel]

Any ideas what the max safe temperature is gonna be on these cpus (the desktop variants). Will it be higher than the pitifully low 61C on bulldozer!?

[watercooled]

TBF IVB is only 67.4C Tcase...

[c.ruel]

I thought the TJ max on IVB was like 100C. Anyway this is thread is about piledriver so i won't derail it. I have an AM3+ with a tricore phenom II. I was gonna get a bulldozer when they came out but was put off by the fact that to get the best out of them you seem to need to O/C but yet the max safe temp is 61C so now I am holding out for piledriver.

I wasn't trying to be a troll btw :S

[KeyboardDemon]

I wasn't trying to be a troll btw :S

Glad to hear it.

Looks like we are both in the same boat then, waiting to see if Piledriver delivers. If it doesn't then I might just wait to see what Haswell has to offer in March 2013.

[watercooled]

I wasn't trying to be a troll btw :S

I didn't think you were.

TJmax isn't the same thing as Tcase; Tcase is the lower of the two (if both are provided) and AMD's system is more similar to Tcase.

[scaryjim]

I thought the TJ max on IVB was like 100C.

Tj max on IVB mobile processors is 105C, Tcase on desktop processors is 67.4C @ 77W (Tcase is lower for lower TDP processors). I can only assume this is to do with having an IHS, which AMD mobile processors have, but Intel ones (AFAIK) don't. But comparing like for like, the difference isn't that great.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

ARCTIC MC101-A10 review:

http://www.v o r t e z.net/articles_..._centre,1.html

Remove the spaces in the URL.

[watercooled]

Not clickable, so most of the URL is missing. Why doesn't it work as-is?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Not clickable, so most of the URL is missing. Why doesn't it work as-is?

Hexus blocks the URL.

[DanceswithUnix]

Got bored of waiting, and the llano 3870 is quite a bargain at the moment so my daughter now has one of those. Quite the step up from single core athlon 64 she had before

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

FirePro APUs have been launched:

http://www.techpowerup.com/170070/AM...rePro-APU.html

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/08/07/a...ons-launching/

AMD will be releasing a Trinity 2.0 in early 2013 too:

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/08/06/a...o-trinity-2-0/