Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 08-07-2012 at 05:12 PM.
I based my estimation of £200 on the current price of the FX8150 with the closed loop water cooler, I'm not really expecting the price to be very far off that, I would be surprised if it goes beyond £250.
You're right about bottlenecks, but part of me does just want to get the upgrade, the same part of me that prompted me to get an AM3+ mobo long before the FX8150 launched, though I had to get a mobo anyway as an unfortunate temper related incident that cause physical damage to my previous mobo rendered the PC unusable! (Don't ask!) But if for any reason the FX8350 fails to deliver to a level that I am not even remotely excited about then I will most likely stick to me current set up.
Yeah, I do, and I know I'm using my wife's business as an excuse, I'll be fine so long as she doesn't find out!, and the truth is should I get the upgrade I will have more than a few happy weeks of measurebating (thanks for that word cat) till I achieve a massive nerdgasm or I am close to going blind!
Thanks for that, I hope so too. We are not really that PC limited at the moment, there are four PCs that I've built two based around 965BE CPUs, an AM2 and a Core 2 6600 plus two laptops, but with only two of us, we don't have the manpower to use them all at once.
That's a good point.
I have tried it, but I think I had an earlier version, this one seems to have a few more tweaks to it, so I might try it again at some point so I can go back to pick a few missing souvenirs and traffic cameras etc...
OMG that's such poor advice, I'm shocked at you Cat. How would you expect anyone get a good gaming experience with a rig like that at medium without at least 2x overclocked Asus Mars III cards. Seriously, you're such an optimist.
Last edited by KeyboardDemon; 08-07-2012 at 07:20 PM.
I know the feeling about the upgrade bug. However,like you I like large performance increases if possible,so I am prepared to wait for upgrades.
I saw the term mentioned on the website of a photographer called Ken Rockwell. The internet hates that chap,but he is fun to read.
I was actually more impressed with it(despite some bugs) than the official pack. Hopefully,Crysis3 will be better.
I have been rumbled!!
Here is a comparison of the 65W TDP A10-5700 against the 100W TDP A8-3850:
http://www.expreview.com/20232-1.html
However,only 1333MHZ DDR3 is used!
Edit!!
The x264 benchmark is not far off a Core i3 2100:
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4083/35042.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4083/35043.png
The CB 11.5 MT scores are slightly behind a Core i3 2100:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1501/16/
CB 11.5 single thread score is around the same as a higher clocked FX4100 which has L3 cache:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1766/9/
Also,looking at the AMD 65W TDP Llano CPUs and the Turbo core issues Toms Hardware had when testing their Trinity samples(down to the early nature of the BIOS support),I suspect Turbo core might not be fully engaging too.
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 09-07-2012 at 01:18 AM.
I managed to find a review for the 65W TDP A8-3800:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/21730/7
It seems the X264 results are around the same:
http://techreport.com/r.x/amd-a8-3800/x264-1.gif
http://techreport.com/r.x/amd-a8-3800/x264-2.gif
OTH,CB 11.5 single threaded scores have gone up by around 24% over the A8-3800:
http://techreport.com/r.x/amd-a8-3800/cinebench.gif
The CB 11.5 MT score is slightly lower,but CB 11.5 does relatively poorly on Bulldozer ,as it is very floating point heavy,and CMT scales worse than SMP.
Gaming PCs are always hard to spec, because you just don't know what settings and fps someone would be happy with. My 14yo step-son is currently grinding through Skyrim on our HTPC - a Sempron 140, 2GB single-channel DDR3 1333, HD4200 integrated graphics - and is perfectly happy with it. Yes, it's a bit choppy at times, and it's on absolute minimum graphics (at 1080p, though), but he's enjoying the game, not the pretty! I know there's plenty of gamers on here who just couldn't hack that, but for some people absolute minimum hardware is fine. With the huge improvement in graphics on Llano and Trinity, it should be possible to get at least acceptable gaming on an APU based rig...
The A10-5700 with 1600MHZ DDR3 is starting to turn up in some prebuilt PCs in the US:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883157362
1600MHZ DDR should add another 10% to 15% to the graphics scores.
10GB? Seriously? That's just weird....
http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/image...89b339f854.jpg
It doesn't look too bad on Low tbf^
Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.
I was seriously impressed with how playable it looks on low settings with a - let's be honest - piss-poor IGP. Must get round to having a bash at it on my PC some time (although I should probably do a bit more of Oblivion first ).
Isn't Skyrim another of those games which needs overclocked Core i5 at 4GHZ+ and GTX680 and HD7970 cards to run at 1920X1080 even without mods??
You should log-in to Aria some time and check out posts by "Dirty Larry". Christ on a bike, i feel like ending myself most of the time so i don't know how you'd go on
For instance: http://forums.aria.co.uk/showthread....=1#post1943585
Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.
wow , and there i was thinking that skyrim can be played on a £100 xbox 360
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