AMD - Piledriver chitchat

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

can anyone confirm the price for the i7 iris pro? I`ve read its $600 for the chip alone but could be wrong?

At the very least it will cost more than a bog standard Core i7 4770.

Laptop designs also have a lot do with good relations with OEMs. See if Rory actually brought some of that supply chain xp and contacts with him. But the way they lost the mobile market to Kepler doesn't bode well. That almost every OEM went back to Nvidia despite what happened with Nvidia bumpgate is almost unthinkable. Enduro lost big time vs Optimus.

Yes, GL 28nm looks good at low speeds but poorer at high speeds which would make it good for wide Opterons but poor for FX desktop chips. Probably AMD just don't have the manpower and with their server marketshare so low that they have to swallow their pride (hey, server chips are a matter of pride) and just ignore that market for now.

It does not help that Intel throws billions of dollars at bribing OEMs. Remember the Ultrabook fund??

They are doing it for Bay Trail:

http://www.simmtester.com/page/news/....asp?num=15752

[kompukare]

can anyone confirm the price for the i7 iris pro? I`ve read its $600 for the chip alone but could be wrong?

Desktop:
4770R $392
4670R $310
4570R $288
Mobile:
4960HQ $657
4750HQ $440
Those are the list prices they were introduced at as taken from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_H...top_processors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_H...ile_processors
The harder part is figuring out how much of a premium they have compared to the non Iris Pro ones since they seldom have the same frequencies. The strange thing is that there are so few reviews of those chips out there because the desktop ones are LGA1150. Seems no site wants to do a real in-depth (take the chip install it in a desktop board etc.).

EDIT: forgot these are OEM only. Still no excuse for someone to go out and buy for instance the Gigabyte BRIX and take the chips out. Techsites are too used to press handouts.

[HalloweenJack]

http://ark.intel.com/products/codena...2/Crystal-Well


am I right they are all OEM only?

[Scow Captain]

The tray price for the cheapest chip with Iris Pro (the 4570R) is still $288 according to Intel's website:
http://ark.intel.com/products/76640/...up-to-3_20-GHz

edit: HalloweenJack beat me to that info. There's no saying this is an economical price for Intel either since the 4570R will be a binned 4770R.

[watercooled]

There are no socketed/LGA1150 Crystalwell parts, they're all BGA (soldered) as I said earlier.

[CountBartok]

VR-Zone review of 7850k with 2400 ram. http://vr-zone.com/articles/kaveri-r...d/69423.html/2
Although there choice of games is a little outdated.

[Noxvayl]

I try to repost anything I see useful over there in this thread,to save yourselves reading the mountain of drivel.

It is much appreciated.

[HalloweenJack]

so in the real world - comparing iris pro to anything FM2+ is pointless , since you cannot upgrade iris pro. ever.

[KeyboardDemon]

It does not help that Intel throws billions of dollars at bribing OEMs. Remember the Ultrabook fund??

Is that any different to companies like HP, Samsung, Sony and Toshiba offering retailers funding to include their products in the retailers TV advertising campaign?

Or even offering them preferential prices for buying larger volumes?

I thought that this sort of thing was common practice and was happening in almost every manufacturing process.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Is that any different to companies like HP, Samsung, Sony and Toshiba offering retailers funding to include their products in the retailers TV advertising campaign?

Or even offering them preferential prices for buying larger volumes?

I thought that this sort of thing was common practice and was happening in almost every manufacturing process.

There was noise that Intel was leaning on suppliers to make sure the Ultrabooks had features and a certain level of build quality only with Intel CPUs,but not with competitors CPUs.

It was Intel bribing..ahem..sorry subsidising companies like Dell during the Athlon64 era too.

However,the fact that Intel needs to subsidise Bay Trail with $1 billion,shows how hard it is for Intel to compete at that end of the market and to maintain decent margins. It also means they are trying hard to lock out companies like AMD and indeed ARM chips from many tablets and laptops. However,longterm I don't know how viable it is.

[HalloweenJack]

http://wccftech.com/amd-kaveri-dual-...adeon-r7-gpus/


dual gfx with R7 240 and R7 250 only

[kompukare]

http://wccftech.com/amd-kaveri-dual-...adeon-r7-gpus/


dual gfx with R7 240 and R7 250 only

Yes, Oland only it seems. But while R7 250 is a perfect match for 7600 (384 shaders), that leaves nothing for the 7850. Guess asymmetric had better work well (the THG article looked good though).

[AETAaAS]

Has frame pacing tightened with Hybrid Crossfire yet? I remember they did it with regular Crossfire. Might be fun to do a A8 7600 + R7 250 in something like a Coolermaster Elite 110 just for the hell of it.

[cheesyboy]

Has frame pacing tightened with Hybrid Crossfire yet? I remember they did it with regular Crossfire. Might be fun to do a A8 7600 + R7 250 in something like a Coolermaster Elite 110 just for the hell of it.

Not too bad, according to Tom's review;
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ri,3725-8.html
Except Skyrim :/

[scaryjim]

"7750 is not <supported>"

Just because something isn't supported, doesn't mean it won't work - I don't think Richland + 7750 was supported, but it still worked. Will have to keep an eye on the interwebs to see what happens....

[Jonj1611]

I have been a bit lost with AMD of late having for the last few years stuck with Intel, however I am in the market for a processor and looking at a budget AMD, what I want to know is what is a good budget priced AMD for gaming? I will have a discrete graphics card so it will just be processor power, but I have read so many things saying you need to get one of the more expensive processors and I am wondering if that really is the case.