LinkBack URL
About LinkBacksbit tech uses windows 7 , tech report uses windows 8.1
can it make that much of a difference?
bit tech uses windows 7 , tech report uses windows 8.1
can it make that much of a difference?
Biscuit (14-01-2014)
Nice spot there HJ, that is a significant W7/W8 difference worth highlighting. i would have thought the difference between ~20 and ~30 FPS is pretty much the boundary between playable and unplayable for most people.Originally Posted by HalloweenJack
I wonder if the W7 install had any of the scheduling patches installed?
What I want to see for the next phase of HSA is the reverse of what they are doing now.
For every graphics card I plug in, I get two more CPU cores.
Oh well, back to reality
BT using 1600MHz RAM too.
Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.
Anandtech benched a 65W Iris Pro 4770W in their review: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7677/a...0-a10-7850k/15
TBH I can't seem to find the original article I was reading (I'll see if I can dig it out), but IIRC it was the 4950HQ, and power use was more in line with an 1155 CPU, despite being a BGA package.
Given that's a 3.2GHz - 3.9GHz 8 thread chip, it's not really surprising to see it doing well at lower resolutions where the CPU plays a bigger role, and worse at higher resolutions where the IGP takes up more of the strain. Not to mention the almost $400 recommended price - for around the same money (on desktop) you can get an 8-thread Xeon and an R7 260X ...
PCGH had an i7-4950HQ in their mini review but they didn't do power tests.
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/CPU-Ha...s-APU-1104954/
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...veri-review/11
they also use CL11 2133 as well
edit:
15% increase in frame rate from faster ram - and bit tech show a 22% increase in bioshock with faster ram
Last edited by HalloweenJack; 15-01-2014 at 12:13 AM.
The configurable TDP is just a quick BIOS setting: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages..._review,4.html
Some power consumption numbers at Hardware Canucks.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-27.html
It seems power consumption is in line with the newer i3s. Considering similar CPU performance in many tasks, and far superior IGP performance, that's not bad going!
As suspected though, it really doesn't look like the SHP process likes getting clocked too much higher. I wonder if that's also a reason for no FX/Opteron line? Maybe AMD have another process in mind for those parts down the line, since I don't recall seeing anything appropriate on GloFo's roadmap at 28nm at least.
Edit: Also bear in mind the motherboard used can impact power consumption - the CPUs themselves use very little when idle, and I very much doubt idle power is ~5W higher than Richland (or 10W higher according to Bittech's results).
Last edited by watercooled; 15-01-2014 at 12:25 AM.
The process plus this is the first design where that resonant clock mesh thing should have been properly implemented (what they did with Richland bwas more of a quick fix). The power numbers really look good for the 45W and 65W parts. On the AT forums they keep quoting the TechReport time graph but with the way turbo works I would take the hardware.fr figures far more seriously: they may not be time graphs but they show separate ATX12V figures too and even though they only had 7850K the power savings vs Trinity and Richlands are noticeable.
Kaveri seems to be really designed for 45W or lower, that is traditional laptop usage. AMD's problem has been their lack of design wins there but the chip could sell very well there. GF is probably the reason they didn't launch laptop first.
While Richland>Kaveri is only 5-7% according to hardware.fr who had them both locked to 3.7GHz:
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/913-...ale-turbo.html
A 4 module FX would still be a nice improvement over 6300/8300 but not on this 28nm process. And AMD don't have the funds to backport Steamroller to 32nm just to have a chip to sell for a few months. Maybe GF will improve the process eventually.
People need to read the Anandtech "official Kaveri" review thread. It is painful. So much hatred for AMD in that thread and so much purchase justification.
It seems many of them are ignoring the large IGP power savings or the fact that Anandtech showed the Iris Pro as not being really any better. Instead many have chosen to attack the Anandtech review instead. Many seem to be hoping on that forum for Broadwell,but the problem is that it looks increasingly that Haswell will be along on desktop and probably laptop for a while.
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 15-01-2014 at 11:25 AM.
FX wants lots of clock speed so that would suck, but for Opteron this would be spot on. The current line they drop the clock to about 2GHz so they can squeeze 16 cores into a package. If the low power abilities of this meant they could do 16 cores at 3GHz, then that would be stonking.
It would involve porting the uncore stuff like the HyperThreading and big crossbars to 28nm, with all the Jaguar+console stuff going on I expect they just don't have enough engineers for that so the smallest Opteron market has been ignored. That is painful, but without a magic wand probably the best thing they could do.
I am quietly confident about the laptop parts now. The A10 6700T was basically the top end A10 5750M but with a higher TDP. Looking at the improvements of the A8 7600 against the A10 6700T,there is potential for a decent improvement for mobile SKUs,especially with the IGP.
Laptop designs also have a lot do with good relations with OEMs. See if Rory actually brought some of that supply chain xp and contacts with him. But the way they lost the mobile market to Kepler doesn't bode well. That almost every OEM went back to Nvidia despite what happened with Nvidia bumpgate is almost unthinkable. Enduro lost big time vs Optimus.
Yes, GL 28nm looks good at low speeds but poorer at high speeds which would make it good for wide Opterons but poor for FX desktop chips. Probably AMD just don't have the manpower and with their server marketshare so low that they have to swallow their pride (hey, server chips are a matter of pride) and just ignore that market for now.
can anyone confirm the price for the i7 iris pro? I`ve read its $600 for the chip alone but could be wrong?
There are currently 23 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 23 guests)
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote