Someone on OcUK is going to test their FX8350 under a custom loop against their old Phenom II X6 with a GTX670:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...php?t=18452312
So,there should be some benchmarks in the next few days,for anyone who is interested.
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 25-10-2012 at 02:33 PM.
cat - dont suppose you have an `old ` 8 core BD knocking about do you? really want to try it in this board of mine
The only old CPUs I have lying around are some ancient dual cores!!Originally Posted by HalloweenJack
cat - dont suppose you have an `old ` 8 core BD knocking about do you? really want to try it in this board of mineTBH,all the CPUs I have cost under £110 anyway and your rig is more powerful than mine! I tend to make hardware last if possible- I would still be using my old Shuttle system, with a Q6600 on a 975X, if the motherboard didn't get slightly temperamental. Although,TBH 4 and a half years is not bad.
Still waiting for some more FX6300 reviews!
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 25-10-2012 at 03:09 PM.
Jeez is there any need for being so condescending and arrogant? Im not obsessing over anything Cat, if anything i would say you're obsessing over everyone else's obsessingBecause again,you are just obsessing about one metric which is of no relevance unless considered with all others. You keep on ignoring what several people in this thread have said.
You fail to realise,if you go around loads of forums,hardly anyone looks at these things like monitor power consumption or load effiencies,so your obsession with meaningless amounts is just weird.
Look at loads of the biggest forums. Look on Hexus . LOOK!
LOOK at the number people asking for monitor advice on Hexus and asking about power consumption
LOOK at the number people asking for PSU advice on Hexus and asking about low load power effiency
LOOK at the number people asking for motherboard advice on Hexus and asking about power effiency
LOOK at the number people asking for graphics card advice on Hexus and really fretting about 10W to 20W difference in power consumption in a standard rig
Then LOOK at a bigger forum like OcUK or Bit-tech or even Anandtech and see the number who obsess about them.
Go onto SPCR and yes you will see that more often - because that is a SFF and LOW POWER forum. That is more to with cooling.
So people then obsessing about CPU power consumption only, is hilarious,beacuse for all their OCD about it,it can account for NOTHING in reality.
So go and worry about a £1 to £2 difference which only an accountant would care about because they like spreadsheets.
PS:
I am not going to talk on any of this any longer. It is getting boring.
You're taking this all far too seriously and need to take a chill pill.
Im not ignoring anything, you're not even reading what im saying - your assuming im obsessing over one value and putting words in my mouth, when im not. I have agreed with you on pretty much every point about power consumption and what people overlook, im just stating why a reviewer sees it as important to investigate.
AMD has higher load power but is cheaper, Intel has less load power but is more expensive, over the course of a year (which i would say is sooner than most would upgrade) you would have better performance overall with intel and probably (given your buying high performance parts so are likely to be at least a moderate user) make the extra money back that you spent on going with the Intel, perhaps a little more. In some specific instances the AMD chip is better - but we all know that anyway.
Motherboards, as i have already agreed - are and shouldn't be overlooked. But in many cases the differences between one 990FX ATX and other is not much more than a couple of Watts, and in my opinion, its more important to get the feature set you require than worry about a couple of W. Infact i would say the story is the same with CPUs in the most part.
Monitors, yes people don't ask about the power usage figures of monitors, but are you likely to get a lower powered monitor with a panel that looks rubbish over a good value one that uses a bit more power? The perceived performance of the monitor at is a more important factor when buying a monitor as its part of the direct interaction.
PSU's i would say in the most part, people actually do ask about the power usage in various scenarios, or at the very least in most discussions its brought up.
Whilst i think your are right in the most part, people are putting too much into the point of power consumption, I think you have it in your head that people only care about CPU power consumption and always overlook other things, but that's just not true. In threads discussing a CPU its obviously going to be a factor that people discuss in detail. If it upsets you that much then why not go around and be the keyboard superhero and put them in their place.
There are tonnes of threads on tonnes of forums around the world about making PC's as powerful as possible without impacting power efficiency.
if anyone is concerned over power useage - £15 a year equates to boiling the kettle with too much water` in for the person your making it for
And once again... the point is missed
I'm rather hoping that my A10-5800 also sips power, as the heatsink/fan that came with it is a piece of junk and I really can't see 100W into that thing ending well.Of course, if you are the kind of person who worries about power consumption that much you shouldn't ever consider a performance desktop. A 65W A10-5700 should give you an adequate all-round computing experience and will sip power
no , your missing the point - a tv on standby *can* use up to 10w (as reported on avforums) , so , again , being overly concerned about 10w is something of a misnomer.
Welcome to the AMD alumium cooler of fail!!
Supposedly,the FX6300 has a redesigned aluminium cooler of fail MK2,with hopefully less fail.
Clearly not reading what im saying
It won't, see my A6-3670k review. The piece of junk stock cooler on lower end AMD chips are just appalling. They do the job in terms of keeping the CPU down to reasonable operating temps, but they're pretty noisy while they do it. I'd seriously consider a third party cooler if you're at all worried about noise.
I'm still using my Scythe Shuriken on my Llano; super quiet, low-profile and moves some air over VRM etc.
The FX6300 cooler has supposedly a revised quieter fan,I wonder if the A10 5800K will have it??
Havent all AMD stock coolers been terrible for years?
I have had a few different chips over the past few years and the HSFs have all been a disaster. I figured they just knew people would buy 3rd part ones so didnt give a damn.
I found the Intel stock cooler with my Core i3 2100 could barely cut it in my modded G2 case. The sound was fine but I was hitting 70C when running Civ5 during the summer. Soon solved that by using a socket 1156 Core i5 cooler,however, it had a slightly grainy sound when it ramped up!!
The Scythe Kozuti would probably be ideal,but I am not paying nearly £30 for a cooler using a sleeve bearing fan.
Terrible's a bit harsh; the cooler for my Semron did the job brilliantly and quietly (and was somewhat smaller than the stock cooler for the 3670K), and I think some of the higher-end chips still come with the heat-pipe based coolers which I thought were OK? Plus in a tower case under a desk the stock cooler would've been fine on the 3670K - it's because I was using it for an HTPC that I wasn't happy with the noise. The performance was surprisingly good. They just spec the absolute minimum that will keep the chip under 60C in normal conditions, so those of us with more demanding expectations tend to be disappointed.
Can't say Intel are an awful lot better mind, the stock Q6600 struggled to keep temps below 70C under load. It's only now they've got TDPs under tighter control that their stock coolers have been able to cope better with the heat output...
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