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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by badass View Post
    It was my understanding that AMD's VCE was like intel's quicksync - i.e. some fixed function logic and some use of the shaders and an SDK provided to make use of that combination. If that's the case then VCE should be faster than indicated by that graph.
    As per http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/a10-58...-32463-19.html
    Toms Hardware suggests that none of the fixed function logic is used by handbrake yet.
    VCE could still be as fast or faster than quicksync. So far, only OpenCL has been used by handbrake.
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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by badass View Post
    As per http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/a10-58...-32463-19.html
    Toms Hardware suggests that none of the fixed function logic is used by handbrake yet.
    VCE could still be as fast or faster than quicksync. So far, only OpenCL has been used by handbrake.
    This. Anandtech and other have implied VCE is being used but it's simply not the case - OpenCL alone does help to an extent, but not as much as dedicated hardware.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    1366x768 works nicely on my 11.6" Brazos box.
    Ditto on my 13.3" Acer - but that's the largest screen with an excuse for it, IMNSHO. With the graphical oomph behind Trinity, it should have something better. Wonder if the problem is really with the laptop manufacturers, or if the panel manufacturers should take some of the blame, though ... surprised none of them have pushed higher res 15" panels for laptops...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Ditto on my 13.3" Acer - but that's the largest screen with an excuse for it, IMNSHO. With the graphical oomph behind Trinity, it should have something better. Wonder if the problem is really with the laptop manufacturers, or if the panel manufacturers should take some of the blame, though ... surprised none of them have pushed higher res 15" panels for laptops...
    I have an 11.6" Brazos, and it is fine, wouldn't push it a mm further though!
    I don't think it matters who the issue is really with, the end product is what needs to sell and it won't be till one of them get it right that they see a big seller.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Have seen people in the past put in an order for a decent resolution laptop only to have the company IT department drop the spec to to a low res one to save a few quid. Would have cost the company a fortune in lost productivity, but yay for the bean counters saving a little on capital expenditure eh?

    So glad I work for a company that doesn't do that sort of thing

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Is there any news on the FX8350 going in to production yet?

    Does anyone have any predictions on how well it will do?

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 27-06-2012 at 03:37 PM.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Does anyone know how Piledriver will be priced? Just wondering because the current Bulldozers have cashback on them, a FX-8120 is £125.77 with £20 cashback. Or would it be worth waiting for Piledriver? Or will the old Bulldozer chips' prices drop dramatically?

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeo01 View Post
    Does anyone know how Piledriver will be priced? Just wondering because the current Bulldozers have cashback on them, a FX-8120 is £125.77 with £20 cashback. Or would it be worth waiting for Piledriver? Or will the old Bulldozer chips' prices drop dramatically?
    They should come in at the normal Llano prices as that is all they're replacing, although they'll probably have a new tech 'tax' at launch.
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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    trinety is the llano replacement - it features 2 piledriver modules

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/5831/a...00m-a-new-hope

    piledriver ` FX` will replace bulldozer `FX`

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeo01 View Post
    Does anyone know how Piledriver will be priced? Just wondering because the current Bulldozers have cashback on them, a FX-8120 is £125.77 with £20 cashback. Or would it be worth waiting for Piledriver? Or will the old Bulldozer chips' prices drop dramatically?
    I suspect this deal is to try and shift most of the Bulldozers in retail at the moment so if they are successful then there won't be enough stock to make any price cut meaningful.

    To be honest if there is nothing new coming from Intel I expect the BD prices to remain the same and the piledriver prices to slot in at whatever seems right given their performance.

    Personally, in your shoes I would wait for Piledriver unless you have a burning need for 2 more cores right now.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Toms Hardware has updated their figures with the Core i3 2100 and A8-3870K:

    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/a10-58...iew-32476.html

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    I had a look at the Toms Hardware article which tested a G620 and HD6670 against an A8-3870K:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...70,3140-4.html

    Since some benchmarks are common we can compare the Pentium G620 and A6-5400K.

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    Of the benchmarks listed,only iTunes is single threaded.

    In that test,it seems,the A6-5400K is around Phenom II X4 980BE level performance.





    However,due to the module approach used,this seems to mean lower multi-threaded performance in relation to single threaded performance.
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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    A techie article about resonant clock.

    http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconduct...me-in-new-pcs/

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Not seen a trinity for sale yet and rumours of the next chip along are starting.

    Called Richland, still uses FM2 same as trinity, 384 GCN graphics cores.

    http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/27...ses-fm2-socket

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