AMD - Piledriver chitchat

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I agree 100% . Thats one of better CPUs price/performance. Core i3 is better only in few games, as Skyrim maybe, and Civilization V, that aren't so good-optimized imho. But 6300 Productivity and multithreading performance are almost 2 times better of
i3 3220

The thing is I don't understand this obssession with Core i5 CPUs, Yes,they are good but they are £130+ and has been the case for years those level of CPUs have been better anyway.

Its almost like the sub £100 market is seen as stop gap CPU territory for a few months on a load of forums. I never understood that TBH.

[watercooled]

Probably has at least something to do with Intel's meaningless i3/5/7 structure, paying more so they fuse off less features, and convincing people anything below a £170 is cheap+nasty/low end.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Probably has at least something to do with Intel's meaningless i3/5/7 structure, paying more so they fuse off less features, and convincing people anything below a £170 is cheap+nasty/low end.

On top of this, the general OCD about a select few very lightly threaded games,does amuse me as most games are not even that way now!

Some of it is funny though,as I have seen people attempt to justify others not buying new AMD rigs by suggesting to get secondhand parts instead!!

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Great article:

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Shows-a...de-Sea-Islands

Kabini has a 20% IPC improvement over the previous CPUs.

So it seems the IGP in Richland has a new arrangement which is more efficient and the core has a slight IPC improvement too. It appears Trinity supports PCI-E 3.0 but this was not activated in the chips, and the reason why the CPUs were moved to FM2 was for future PCI-E support on the platform.

Kaveri is being introduced to desktop first and AMD is trying to release as soon as possible and hopefully before the end of the year.

[DanceswithUnix]

The thing is I don't understand this obssession with Core i5 CPUs, Yes,they are good but they are £130+ and has been the case for years those level of CPUs have been better anyway.

Its almost like the sub £100 market is seen as stop gap CPU territory for a few months on a load of forums. I never understood that TBH.

Car forums are the same, don't try and discuss cars that everyone has, and certainly don't mention anything front wheel drive despite 90% of people getting from a to b quite happily in such vehicles.

Human nature I think, people don't want to talk about the stuff they use every day they want to talk about aspirational things. I think they just get carried away after that

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Car forums are the same, don't try and discuss cars that everyone has, and certainly don't mention anything front wheel drive despite 90% of people getting from a to b quite happily in such vehicles.

Human nature I think, people don't want to talk about the stuff they use every day they want to talk about aspirational things. I think they just get carried away after that

Supposedly,on another forum it is better to get a Core i3 even if a FX6300 is faster for the purpose,because you can get a Core i5,however since it is slower in that situation,surely the Core i3 would need upgrading quicker?? Isn't it more important to get the faster CPU now in that situation??

Its like when they recommend a Pentium G850 and a HD6670 GDDR3 instead of an A10 5800K even though the CPU is far better in the longterm and the IGP is no slower,because of the Core i5 upgrade potential,despite the fact a Pentium dual core will be more of a limiting factor as time progresses.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...30-motherboard

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01...e_motherboard/

[s3ds]

any idea when the AMD FX-4350 will be available ?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

AMD tablet:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6672/vizio-tablet-pc

It is made by Vizio and Anandtech thought it was a nice tablet.

any idea when the AMD FX-4350 will be available ?

Not heard much news on it TBH.

[Biscuit]

AMD tablet:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6672/vizio-tablet-pc

It is made by Vizio and Anandtech thought it was a nice tablet.



Not heard much news on it TBH.

I would love a keyboard dockable version!

This kind of tablet is what im looking at now. I love my little 7" one and i love my lenovo netbook, but i wouldnt mind retiring the netbook for a slightly oversized tablet with a high res and roughly the same amount of grunt, perhaps a touch more. This is a decent step towards it!

[watercooled]

Definitely an interesting tablet!

Just spotted this article
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6670/d...for-an-upgrade

The interesting bit, IMHO, is the gaming graphs - despite websites constantly ranking Intel miles above AMD for a gaming CPU, you can see even A10 vs SNB-E makes no real difference when you run at reasonable (i.e. not minimum) settings, even a 7970 doesn't show Trinity as a bottleneck on these games. Unfortunately, they didn't test any PD AM3+ CPUs. Metro is probably running a bit high, and it's only two games but it something I keep seeing now I'm paying more attention to testing resolutions. Along with that video posted by CAT further up the thread, again running the games at real-world settings, it's fairly clear the Intel>AMD gaming argument is full of holes.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I would love a keyboard dockable version!

This kind of tablet is what im looking at now. I love my little 7" one and i love my lenovo netbook, but i wouldnt mind retiring the netbook for a slightly oversized tablet with a high res and roughly the same amount of grunt, perhaps a touch more. This is a decent step towards it!

Temash is supposed to have over twice the GPU performance,4 threads and an 20% IPC improvement in the same TDP.

Definitely an interesting tablet!

Just spotted this article
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6670/d...for-an-upgrade

The interesting bit, IMHO, is the gaming graphs - despite websites constantly ranking Intel miles above AMD for a gaming CPU, you can see even A10 vs SNB-E makes no real difference when you run at reasonable (i.e. not minimum) settings, even a 7970 doesn't show Trinity as a bottleneck on these games. Unfortunately, they didn't test any PD AM3+ CPUs. Along with that video posted by CAT further up the thread, again running the games at real-world settings, it's fairly clear the Intel>AMD gaming argument is full of holes.

This video is worth watching:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV-U50Viv_k



The tablet is made by Vizio who have a decent presence in the US and the AMD chap said it was already in production.

That Eyefinity Hub looks really interesting!!

[watercooled]

If I had something like that, I'd want to take a keyboard+mouse to play games on the train, just because I could, and to see reactions.

I was expecting to say 'in the next few months...', fairly surprised he said weeks! That DP hub looks interesting too, I wonder if it appears to the PC as one large display then?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

This is an old post,but I wonder if anyone can confirm this:

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m...e=1&print=true

[shaithis]

running the games at real-world settings, it's fairly clear the Intel>AMD gaming argument is full of holes.

Regardless, some will still state otherwise and some even more deluded individuals will go and buy SB-E parts based on it.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Even things like Skyrim and SC2 which generally do produce better framerates on some Intel CPUs,are cherry picked way to often. To put it in context,I met someone who was a SC2 Diamond league player who had a Phenom II X4,and know plenty of people who run Skyrim smoothly on older systems. If anything the graphics card is more of a limiting factor.
Even then the current £120 to £160 cards are around GTX570/HD6970 level or a bit faster,and plenty of people are still running older cards. Unless you are really into BF3 or something similar,I suspect a lot of people will not have upgraded yet.

Edit!!

I have some weirdness though. For example people recommending a Core i5 with a B-grade XFX HD6870 1GB(!) over a FX6300 with a brand new MSI HD7850 1GB,which also comes with a copy of FC3.