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    Does time exist in any objective way?

    I once heard something about how if two twins existed and on boarded a space ship and traveled at the speed of light for a 4 year round trip, the twin on the space ship would have aged 4 years while the twin on earth would have aged over 30 years.

    Now if this is true, this leads me to believe that time is relative/subjective and not absolute/objective, so is time applicable in any way to anything above and beyond my personal experience?

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    I sense another debate LOL

    Id have to say I think no. But im not a Quantum Physics expert there is plenty of them round here to answer why yes or why not.

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    Time is confusing enough as it is.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Relativity

    I just read this part from time dilation:

    One assumes, naturally enough, that if time-passage has slowed for a moving object, the moving object would find the external world to be correspondingly "sped up." But counterintuitively, Einsteinian relativity predicts the opposite, a situation difficult to visualize.
    "Well, there was your Uncle Tiberius who died wrapped in cabbage leaves but we assumed that was a freak accident."

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    All I know is, the older I get then the quicker it seems to go. Except during advert breaks on Sky. All I can do is offer a subjective opinion, I don't know enough about science to comment further.

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    Yes time is relative. What you are looking for is Albert Einstein's theory of relativity (special and general) hate to quote wiki but this is actually a good article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_relativity

    and more specifically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativity_of_simultaneity.

    As for being "above and beyond my personal experience" that's a tricky one and I'll need to get some coffee into my system before thinking about it because I think there are a few ways to look at it. It's a good question.

    edit: lol I just saw the time that the OP was posted. Was this question keeping you up at night?
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    Time is a purley relative thing to a frame a refrence. Time dilation is something that is experimentally true, the best example is a meuon (maybe another particle I can't remember) is formed in the atmosphere and travels to the earth surface. Now if we were to take the absolute time rest time it would take this particle to dissipate and look at the speed of the particle, the particle should infact not reach the earths surface, the reason it does though is because it is going so fast that is under going relatistic effects and time is effectly slowed down for that paritcle with respect to the earth.

    So yeah, relativity...

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    I thought it was to do with gravity? Time goes much slower nearer a black hole for example.

    EDIT: And they made a black hole themselves and tested it didn't they?

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    they didnt have to make one, they just grabbed the nearest girl with a tiny tiny handbag and held a watch next to it.

    If you are at all skeptical about this, try checking in the wife/gf's handbag and see just exactly how much they can fit in there, it defies the laws of physics!



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    Quote Originally Posted by ibm View Post
    They made a black hole? Really? I find that hard to believe....
    Ridiculously tiny, short-lived ones, made in particle colliders. Nonetheless measurements can be made. Equally tiny and short-lived universes can be created too.

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    so, if time slows down within one of these black holes, then we are really occupying a tiny universe that exists for a split second in a particle accelerator somewhere.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Kezzer View Post
    I thought it was to do with gravity? Time goes much slower nearer a black hole for example.

    EDIT: And they made a black hole themselves and tested it didn't they?
    I think there's two types of time dilation - one is due to gravity, the other is due to velocity.
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    and then theres the one where you are waiting for the kettle to boil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dareos View Post
    and then theres the one where you are waiting for the kettle to boil
    And conversely, the time between waking up 30 mins before your alarm and when it actually goes off...
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    Anyone know the ingrediants for a black hole? I would very much like to suck my annoying neighbours into one!!

    ~poof and they are gone for good~

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    Quote Originally Posted by pollaxe View Post
    All I know is, the older I get then the quicker it seems to go. Except during advert breaks on Sky.
    That, is relative

    When you're 3 years old, driving to holiday in the car for 3 hours, seems an eternity. 3 hours as a proportion of your three years is quite a large percentage.

    When you're 25, 3 hours in a car, seems irrelevent. 3 hours as a percentage of 25 years is a drop in the ocean.



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