So who else has sleeping issues?

[666moe666]

Its 4.22am here, i have work in the morning.
Yesterday it was 3.30am before i got my head down and i had work that day too.

So yeah, guess you could say i've got sleeping problems.

[Agent]

Generally I sleep fine. Tonight however, I don't. Gutted.

Little'un not keeping you up at the moment then?

[fat jez]

Urgh why me and why now?

It can happen to any of us at any time. I've been through something similar and ended up on a low dose of anti-depressants (which I then halved myself). It was enough to lift me out of it and get back on my feet. I would go and see your GP.

Cheers,
Stephen

[tiggerai]

Thanks for that
I know this is going to sound stupid but at times it really did feel like i'm the only one.
In the past few days ive tried doing more excersise/sport, and have pretty much removed my caffiene source from my life (although ive always drunk coke so theres nothing new on that front)
But still nothing really, it just gets me that during the day im fine, with the occasional blue spell, but now im almost starting to dread night times. Ive been doing a bit of research and after trawling through mountains of sites, ive actually found that the bbc health pages seem to be the best.

If im still feeling like this by tues/weds I think I might make an Appointment with my G.P, cause already im alot more irritable towards others and a few ppl have now said I dont seem myself.

Urgh why me and why now?

Just remember that the irritableness might just be the caffeine withdrawl if you've completely cut it out, it can take a while for your body to not get used to it anymore. If you've completely removed it, then try just having one cup of tea or something just to keep your spirits up. And it's always a good excuse to have biscuit.

[Lowe]

Little'un not keeping you up at the moment then?

Nah, I think 2l of beer had something to do with it though lol.

[Guy]

It can happen to any of us at any time. I've been through something similar and ended up on a low dose of anti-depressants (which I then halved myself). It was enough to lift me out of it and get back on my feet. I would go and see your GP.

Cheers,
Stephen

Thanks, if this does continue I will have to go to my G.P cause atm ive woken up and feel like hell.

Just remember that the irritableness might just be the caffeine withdrawl if you've completely cut it out, it can take a while for your body to not get used to it anymore. If you've completely removed it, then try just having one cup of tea or something just to keep your spirits up. And it's always a good excuse to have biscuit.

Well im always partial to a chocolate hobnob!
Cant really blame the lack of caffiene, ive cut the coke intake almost down to nill, but have had a few cups of tea, but still nothing really changes.

Last night all I remember was it was roughly 5am when I must have drifted off, so Ive been up for a while in the hope that il sleep tonight.

[beanbandit]

Thanks for that
I know this is going to sound stupid but at times it really did feel like i'm the only one.
In the past few days ive tried doing more excersise/sport, and have pretty much removed my caffiene source from my life (although ive always drunk coke so theres nothing new on that front)
But still nothing really, it just gets me that during the day im fine, with the occasional blue spell, but now im almost starting to dread night times. Ive been doing a bit of research and after trawling through mountains of sites, ive actually found that the bbc health pages seem to be the best.

If im still feeling like this by tues/weds I think I might make an Appointment with my G.P, cause already im alot more irritable towards others and a few ppl have now said I dont seem myself.

Urgh why me and why now?

Believe me when i say i know what your going through. I've been suffering from depression for over a year, for me its been hell, for my friends its been hell, i was a real bastard to everyone who got in my way. It didn't help that a work mate was going through his own hell, and i knew i had to get some proper help when he had a break down at work, i knew that if i didn't get the help needed i would end up in the same position as him.

It took a couple of visits to my GP, which during that time i had blood tests, pescribed sleeping pills, pills for IBS (which can be bought on by stress) before i asked for proper help. Counselling. In MK that means going to a central counselling service for an initial consultation, after my session there it was recommended that i do a proper course. But i was going to have to pay for it, £30 per hour.

That was in Dec last year, for 5 months i went for weekly session, after 6 weeks i was recommended that i should start a course of anti-deppresents. This was backed up by my GP. I still have counselling sessions but they are now only once a month. I'm a lot happier now, and it's also been noted by friends & work mates, but i still have bad days, just not so many now.

Your first port of call is see your GP, he should do a test on you to see your level of depression. At first he will probably say things like, get some excercise, eat better, find some new interests, get a new job, your in a rut etc Tell the GP that you've done those and still struggling.

If you do go to counselling then i can give you one bit of advice that was given to me by a friend. Be honest, i know it sounds obvious, but the sooner you get your issues out the better you will feel. Yes for me it was expensive, but it was money well spent in my view

If you need any help or advice, send me a PM.

[Guy]

Believe me when i say i know what your going through. I've been suffering from depression for over a year, for me its been hell, for my friends its been hell, i was a real bastard to everyone who got in my way. It didn't help that a work mate was going through his own hell, and i knew i had to get some proper help when he had a break down at work, i knew that if i didn't get the help needed i would end up in the same position as him.

It took a couple of visits to my GP, which during that time i had blood tests, pescribed sleeping pills, pills for IBS (which can be bought on by stress) before i asked for proper help. Counselling. In MK that means going to a central counselling service for an initial consultation, after my session there it was recommended that i do a proper course. But i was going to have to pay for it, £30 per hour.

That was in Dec last year, for 5 months i went for weekly session, after 6 weeks i was recommended that i should start a course of anti-deppresents. This was backed up by my GP. I still have counselling sessions but they are now only once a month. I'm a lot happier now, and it's also been noted by friends & work mates, but i still have bad days, just not so many now.

Your first port of call is see your GP, he should do a test on you to see your level of depression. At first he will probably say things like, get some excercise, eat better, find some new interests, get a new job, your in a rut etc Tell the GP that you've done those and still struggling.

If you do go to counselling then i can give you one bit of advice that was given to me by a friend. Be honest, i know it sounds obvious, but the sooner you get your issues out the better you will feel. Yes for me it was expensive, but it was money well spent in my view

If you need any help or advice, send me a PM.

I really dont mean this in the wrong way to any of you, but I to a certain degree feel a bit of relief that i'm not the only one.
So Il more than likely phone up 2mrow and hopefully get an appointment for this week.
I think its just the fact that as a person im usually quite sarcastic/have a dark sense of humor, but recently ive become quite bitchy and vindictive to a certain extent. I honestly dont know im doing it, but even people at work have starting asking if everythings alright etc.

As for a bit of routine changing ive dug out my basketball stuff, and with the nice weather ive been getting back into that not only for this, but also to get back into some sort of shape!
And on the eating front, I dont know wether its just cause its quite summery atm but im down to about 1 meal a day. I honestly did try lunch and dinner last night, but I just couldnt.

[tiggerai]

Meals, Smaller and more often, graze if you have to.

This may be whats causing the irritability too as I get proper grouchy if I haven't eaten. (I'm hyopglyceamic so grazing is what I do to keep sugar levels up)

just a thought

[Jay]

I struggle to sleep, its not because I don't get tired its because my mind is telling me "don't sleep, you could do something else, your wasting you time sleeping" its really odd. It got worse when my girl friend left for a 8 months. I could not sleep and I was getting about 4 hours a night tops (some times nothing) Now she is back its not quite as bad but its still no where near "normal"

I also find it VERY hard to get up once I have fallen asleep. Its starting to affect my job so I need to get it sorted.

[Guy]

Meals, Smaller and more often, graze if you have to.

This may be whats causing the irritability too as I get proper grouchy if I haven't eaten. (I'm hyopglyceamic so grazing is what I do to keep sugar levels up)

just a thought

Il try but I cant promise anything.....

[tiggerai]

I'm not asking you to, just suggesting a possible reason... I could be wrong and way off the mark... but my sister did have this problem when she had her depressive problems a couple of years back. She stopped eating properly which made things worse... hence my suggestion.

[TheAnimus]

my mum does exactly the same, she has type 2 diabeties.

If she dosen't eat often she gets very iritable.

[Guy]

ah ok, yeh just re-read your post, lack of sleep is really starting to catch up with me!

[MarcLister]

I've had sleeping problems for a few years. I can spend 2-3 or even more hours in bed trying to fall asleep.

I'll feel tired and go to bed, then suddenly I don't feel tired anymore.

I think my problem is that I'm always thinking. I cannot stop thinking at 100mph when I'm in bed. Its stupid, I'll think of something and then I'll think of something else connected to that first thing and so on and so on ad infinitum.

My aunt from Canada is a nutritionalist and gave me some GABA (Gamma-aminobutyric acid) and I think that helped. The only problem is that its not sold in the UK and I'd have to buy it online from Canada. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GABA Anyone else heard of GABA? I think its OK to import into the UK, going to try it with a site I found that my aunt has verified is OK.

Also perhaps http://food.yahoo.com/blog/beautyeat...-night-s-sleep might help. My aunt is quite amazing psychic, she'll tell me something in an email and its always 100% bang on! Like the time she mentioned if I have a craving for chocolate perhaps I'm short on magnesium due to a few stressful years. And sure enough, recently I've been eating too much chocolate. Then I found the link below off Lifehacker.com. It backed her up completely. http://www.naturopathyworks.com/pages/cravings.php

After a while I do eventually get to sleep, its the fact it takes hours that annoys me. I can be at Uni in my flat and it'll be 3am and I have to get up at 8am for a 9am lecture. So still not asleep and less than 5 hours sleep available. It didn't really help that the last two years the blinds in my rooms have been thinner than clingfilm! And I've had rooms facing the roads with the flaming road lights illuminating my room. If I get that again this year, its off to an art shop for me and I'm getting me some black sugar paper and sellotaping it onto the blind to try and make it more effective.

Since I've been home for the summer I've had a few nights where I went to bed late (not tired yet you see!) and its 3am, 4am, 5am and whoo its getting lighter outside! Now I like to sleep in the dark if possible so when its getting light outside I've no chance.

[mroz]

I really dont mean this in the wrong way to any of you, but I to a certain degree feel a bit of relief that i'm not the only one.
So Il more than likely phone up 2mrow and hopefully get an appointment for this week.

No one here will take that the wrong way. Let us know how it goes/went, yeah? All the other advice is mostly good stuff - especially the exercise - but you shouldn't feel you have to try every 'remedy' under the sun before you mention the problems to your GP.

The only other point I'd add my voice to is be honest with your doc & anyone else you see, both in how you feel & the observations you & others have made regarding your behavioural changes. Meds can help, counselling can help, just talking about how you feel can help. Good luck.