"Hacker" Films

[Mike Fishcake]

I'm just waiting for the super hero who always gets laid with the hot girl to use a white EEE Pc

They'll probably have them using it as a phone or something.

[DataMatrix]

your clearly a moron trying to sound "l33t"

1.) does it matter that the opening credits are in html tags rather than c#....no, are the DNA strands in the opening sequence of spider man medically correct....does it matter.....it's a film.

2.) Using a macontish to "hack"....I don't see a problem with this, and by your mornonic statement above


Macontish is a BSD based system....or unix based system.


The matrix uses nmap and sshnuke, yet that was a 2 second flash that people go "oooh they used the right tools" rather than 100,000000 people enjoying the film....as a film.

Stop trying to be "l33t" with comments like html is baby talk and talking utter tripe

I'm sorry, how am I trying to sound "l33t"? I'm stating the obvious you egocentric ass.

[DavidM]

The last bit of plausible hacker action was in Battle Royale. It was just scrolling C code. I can't remember if it had trademark beeping or not.

Rather like how the Terminator was programmed in 6502 machine language I guess....

[directhex]

Rather like how the Terminator was programmed in 6502 machine language I guess....

8 bits ought to be enough for anybody

[DavidM]

Agreed - mind you - controlling his hardware with just 3 x 8bit ports? Bit tricky...

[Marcos]

Die Hard 4 was painful, i dont even know enough to hack, but i know what i saw was insulting my intelligence

[ikonia]

I'm sorry, how am I trying to sound "l33t"? I'm stating the obvious you egocentric ass.

1.) complaining that the titles are in html not c# it's not "hacker enough" to use html
2.) complining that html is "baby" and anyone can do it, when infact html is a solid language to be done well
3.) complaining that people use macs to hack and they should use linux/unix when mac OS is a unix OS
4.) complaining that films arn't real enough, when films to have an element of realism in them, just not over the top as to ruin the film with over complexity or silly time lines - this is not "real enough for you"

thats how your trying to present yourself as "l33t"

[TheAnimus]

1.) complaining that the titles are in html not c# it's not "hacker enough" to use html
2.) complining that html is "baby" and anyone can do it, when infact html is a solid language to be done well
3.) complaining that people use macs to hack and they should use linux/unix when mac OS is a unix OS
4.) complaining that films arn't real enough, when films to have an element of realism in them, just not over the top as to ruin the film with over complexity or silly time lines - this is not "real enough for you"

thats how your trying to present yourself as "l33t"

try hugging a hot water bottle, i'm told that often helps with the pains......

HTML is a simple language which can not do anything powerful. Thats not to say you might not be able to craft a malicous bit of HTML, just that it really isn't a smart mans language. I'd back up the statement that its baby like, with what pre-requisits are needed to be trained in it from any academic institute. I'm not saying its not hard to master, just that its akin to having BBC Basic.

[DataMatrix]

1.) complaining that the titles are in html not c# it's not "hacker enough" to use html
2.) complining that html is "baby" and anyone can do it, when infact html is a solid language to be done well
3.) complaining that people use macs to hack and they should use linux/unix when mac OS is a unix OS
4.) complaining that films arn't real enough, when films to have an element of realism in them, just not over the top as to ruin the film with over complexity or silly time lines - this is not "real enough for you"

thats how your trying to present yourself as "l33t"

1. I never said anything about the titles being "hacker enough", I said they were stupid.
2. HTML is baby talk. ANYONE can do it given something like dreamweaver or frontpage. It can only be done WELL if you get down to the nitty gritty reading of the file rather than seeing the representation of it in an editor.
3. Ok, Macs do use a Unix based OS. But, it's so majorly changed and I'd like to see any hacker that'd choose it as a primary hacking OS.
4. I can complain about whatever I wish, whenever I wish. Films are branding hacking as a fun toy with all flashy colours and cubes. Christ, you might as well play with Lego if you want that sort of thing.

[DavidM]

I'm not saying its not hard to master, just that its akin to having BBC Basic.

BBC Basic could do some harm :-)

I've known a few people to trash floppy's with sly *VDU calls in the past

[TheAnimus]

BBC Basic could do some harm :-)

I've known a few people to trash floppy's with sly *VDU calls in the past

Now i'm not saying you couldn't be mischivious with the old BBC Basic, heck i recall at primary school putting a little something in the boot load of an A5000. (top tip, don't put your name, followed by is the greatest when 'hacking').

But asside from making a naughty copy of Elite, i doubt anyone still hacks with it.

[DataMatrix]

top tip, don't put your name, followed by is the greatest when 'hacking'

[TheAnimus]

I was heck, this would of been 1992 so not even 7, i had yet to learn how to be a naughty subversive without been caught.

Isn't there a pic of me floating round at the computer musiem bletchly park BBC Basic'ing away on an A3000?

[ikonia]

1. I never said anything about the titles being "hacker enough", I said they were stupid.
2. HTML is baby talk. ANYONE can do it given something like dreamweaver or frontpage. It can only be done WELL if you get down to the nitty gritty reading of the file rather than seeing the representation of it in an editor.
3. Ok, Macs do use a Unix based OS. But, it's so majorly changed and I'd like to see any hacker that'd choose it as a primary hacking OS.
4. I can complain about whatever I wish, whenever I wish. Films are branding hacking as a fun toy with all flashy colours and cubes. Christ, you might as well play with Lego if you want that sort of thing.

1.) why are they stupid in html, but not stupid in c## ? (I'd really love to know why) why would the title in c## make it more real/less stupid
2.) thats not html - thats WYSIWYG editors, that writes html for you. Understanding and doing well html is not kiddy stuff, which as you rightly point out is more than just hello world. Which by that defintion any language would be "kiddy" as there are ide's to do stuff for you, and hello world in any language is easy to do.
3.) the OS isn't changed that much, the interface that links into it is, but the core of it is the same.
4.) your more than welcome to complaing about what ever you want, when ever you want, in the same way I am more than allowed to correct you and pass comment on it as you posted it on a public forum.

I don't disagree with what your saying there are a lot of factual differences from films to reality, but thats the point, it's a film, the basics are there, but the detail is not, not everyone works in the IT business, so a 30 minute film scene with someone setting up their computer, trying things, making notes, reading books, referencing material, making adjustments to tools would please a small percent of the film goes compared to a 5 minute scence of loading a program called "hacker.exe" and letting it run for 30 seconds.

You could pull almost any film apart finding fault, but thats the joy of film, its make believe, it caters to mass audience, put it in perspective.

[Funkstar]

Isn't there a pic of me floating round at the computer musiem bletchly park BBC Basic'ing away on an A3000?

that'll be this one then:


I have another couple of what you were actually doing, but the CRT strobing makes them look a bit crap

[DataMatrix]

1.) why are they stupid in html, but not stupid in c## ? (I'd really love to know why) why would the title in c## make it more real/less stupid
2.) thats not html - thats WYSIWYG editors, that writes html for you. Understanding and doing well html is not kiddy stuff, which as you rightly point out is more than just hello world. Which by that defintion any language would be "kiddy" as there are ide's to do stuff for you, and hello world in any language is easy to do.
3.) the OS isn't changed that much, the interface that links into it is, but the core of it is the same.
4.) your more than welcome to complaing about what ever you want, when ever you want, in the same way I am more than allowed to correct you and pass comment on it as you posted it on a public forum.

I don't disagree with what your saying there are a lot of factual differences from films to reality, but thats the point, it's a film, the basics are there, but the detail is not, not everyone works in the IT business, so a 30 minute film scene with someone setting up their computer, trying things, making notes, reading books, referencing material, making adjustments to tools would please a small percent of the film goes compared to a 5 minute scence of loading a program called "hacker.exe" and letting it run for 30 seconds.

You could pull almost any film apart finding fault, but thats the joy of film, its make believe, it caters to mass audience, put it in perspective.

No, you're not correcting me, you're having opinions.