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    Can nobody stand up to Israel?

    Many of you will have seen recently the coverage of the racism conference in Geneva recently, and it is quite shocking. Many european diplomats walked out of the conference simply on the basis Ahmadinejad was singling out Israel as a racist entity.

    Israel has commited war crime after war crime, but yet nobody is allowed to remain critical of Israel. Israel has completely gone against UN resolutions. It has been the target of over 220 so far. Yet the US for example needs only one example of a UN violation to go and invade and destroy a country. It's quite incredible.

    Some of Ahmadinejad's comments at the conference were out of line, but he was underlining a very undeniable truth - Zionism is fundamentally racist. How is it that an ideaology that calls for the displacement of a people to make way for Jews not racist? Isn't this what Nazi Germany did? The Nazis singled out the Jews and persecuted them. How about apartheid South Africa? I don't see any other countries in the world where there are settlements only Jews are allowed to enter.

    If tommorow Manchester for example were to be made a black-only community, what would be the reaction?

    Israel's racist policy of ethnic-cleansing was recently exposed (and ignored) again with the eviction of many Arab residents from occupied East Jerusalem. How about the hundreds of Arab villages Israel completely wiped out? And I've just found this on the net:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL5r-6_7eLU

    How about the fact that Israel massacred many innocent people in Gaza this year, with no real opposition (apart from Hamas ) whatsoever?

    Take a look here:

    http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...423101519.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vB41...layer_embedded

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mJp5d3ffP8

    http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...120147222.html

    http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...222854317.html

    Despite promising investigations into alleged crimes during the war, Israel has actually refused to co-operate with the UN in a proper inquiry:

    http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...045482370.html

    It's no secret Israel consistently oppresses civilians in the West Bank and Gaza (AND Arabs in Israel), yet no one is allowed to open their mouths without being called 'anti-semetic'.

    A Jewish-only state on someone else's land? I'm sorry, but that's racist through and through.
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    Re: Can nobody stand up to Israel?



    That should give you a reasonable insight into why no one steps in.

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    Re: Can nobody stand up to Israel?

    +1 on Whiternoise image. It's because the US are backing Israel. Simple as really. Besides no likes to be labelled anit-jew. And then you have Israel "omg but we went through the holocaust" ergo we are allowed to do anything.

    And yes, some of Ahmadinejad comments were out of line and not in keeping with UN politeness, he did however hit the nail on the head. But I think the mass walkout was a joke and mostly a reflection on us - just confirming that we are happy to ignore Israel actions and allow them to do whatever they want.

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    Re: Can nobody stand up to Israel?

    It's not a point that nobody can, just that nobody wants to.
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    Re: Can nobody stand up to Israel?

    The Iranian President is HELLBENT on trying to antagonise anyone that will listen. That is why the delegates walked out.

    Do you think he really gives a monkies about Palestine? Of course he doesn't. Do you think he has a hidden agenda? Definitely.
    The guy knows people from his country are fighting (if thats what you want to call it), for Palestinians. This is why he shoves his oar in.

    I, for one, couldn't give a flying fig about Palestine or Iran. In fact, i hope that sooner or later, someone takes exception to the Iranian combativeness, and flattens the place.
    If tommorow Manchester for example were to be made a black-only community, what would be the reaction?
    Plenty of it already is? The rest is Asian.
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    Re: Can nobody stand up to Israel?

    What Blitzen said.

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    Re: Can nobody stand up to Israel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post

    I, for one, couldn't give a flying fig about Palestine or Iran. In fact, i hope that sooner or later, someone takes exception to the Iranian combativeness, and flattens the places.
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    Re: Can nobody stand up to Israel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post

    I, for one, couldn't give a flying fig about Palestine or Iran. In fact, i hope that sooner or later, someone takes exception to the Iranian combativeness, and flattens the place.

    Plenty of it already is? The rest is Asian.
    Oh, it's Iran that is combatitive is it? Forgive me, I thought it was Israel - y'know, with all their illegal WMDs, constant invasion of Arab countries, and a downright genocidal attitude towards Palestien
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    Re: Can nobody stand up to Israel?

    Quote Originally Posted by AD-15 View Post
    If tommorow Manchester for example were to be made a black-only community, what would be the reaction?
    it would finally be made official?

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    Re: Can nobody stand up to Israel?

    Quote Originally Posted by format View Post
    Oh, it's Iran that is combatitive is it? Forgive me, I thought it was Israel - y'know, with all their illegal WMDs, constant invasion of Arab countries, and a downright genocidal attitude towards Palestien
    I have spent the majority of my working life working around the Middle East in a military capacity and i can honestly say, i have seen what things are like 1st hand. Albeit not in Palestine, but definitely the like of the Gulf state countries.

    With the 'rolling-eyes' attitude and the safety of school/university, it is blatantly obvious you know little more than you have seen on the news.

    Its a shame that the WMD issue also seems raise its head. How can you form an honest opinion of rights or wrongs when you have no idea what these countries are actually like. Wikipedia and SKY News will only take you so far!

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    Re: Can nobody stand up to Israel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    I have spent the majority of my working life working around the Middle East in a military capacity and i can honestly say, i have seen what things are like 1st hand. Albeit not in Palestine, but definitely the like of the Gulf state countries.

    With the 'rolling-eyes' attitude and the safety of school/university, it is blatantly obvious you know little more than you have seen on the news.

    Its a shame that the WMD issue also seems raise its head. How can you form an honest opinion of rights or wrongs when you have no idea what these countries are actually like. Wikipedia and SKY News will only take you so far!
    Ah well, guess about 95% of the British public know nothing (especially those with uni education) and we should all just let the military sort it out then eh?
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    Re: Can nobody stand up to Israel?

    Quote Originally Posted by AD-15 View Post
    If tommorow Manchester for example were to be made a black-only community, what would be the reaction?
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    Re: Can nobody stand up to Israel?

    Quote Originally Posted by format View Post
    Ah well, guess about 95% of the British public know nothing (especially those with uni education) and we should all just let the military sort it out then eh?
    What makes you think I would ever watch Sky news?
    How can you be foolish enough to imagine that a 'uni' education somehow is a mark of intelligence?

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    Re: Can nobody stand up to Israel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    How can you be foolish enough to imagine that a 'uni' education somehow is a mark of intelligence?
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    Re: Can nobody stand up to Israel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    How can you be foolish enough to imagine that a 'uni' education somehow is a mark of intelligence?
    He didn't.

    He was suggesting it was a sign of someone who's been educated.

    Asking for an oxbridge degree is still the quickest way of filtering out the dross i know of (and i don't have one!)
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    Re: Can nobody stand up to Israel?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    How can you be foolish enough to imagine that a 'uni' education somehow is a mark of intelligence?
    He didn't.

    I, for one, couldn't give a flying fig about Palestine or Iran. In fact, i hope that sooner or later, someone takes exception to the Iranian combativeness, and flattens the place.
    I know that this is a mark of your intelligence...

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