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    Re: UK broadband 'not fit' for future.

    come on now, you all know web content now is alot richer, so it does help to have a faster line.

    for me it's more the case of having a decent, stable connection. even if it's at 1 meg.

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    Re: UK broadband 'not fit' for future.

    Quote Originally Posted by matty-hodgson View Post
    i do take everyone's points about us not being as fast as other countries, but, seriously, what is the problem?
    The problem for me is broadband is advertised with "up to" wording and it is just misleading.

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    Re: UK broadband 'not fit' for future.

    The problem for me is that even though there is a known issue with your line, BT drag their heels at every turn and try to avoid doing what they know will fix it.

    Over. 7. Years.

    It's like banging your head on a brick wall - Imagine if any other service did the same, multiple times per day all of a sudden there was no electricity supply, or you'd constantly have no water from the tap, or a slight dribble, but the electricity supplier or water company thought that it was good enough, and "hey, think of africa, in places they don't even have...".

    Not good enough. We're not Africa, we are supposed to be one of the countries leading the world forward.

    BT only invest when they have no other choice, and even then it's only the bare minimum that they can get away with. Heaven forbid they they should meddle with the shareholders short-term profits!

    21CN is looking like a nightmare because BT have gone with the cheapest solution, there are fundamental issues all over the place, and it's looking like quite a botched job from what I've been hearing from my ISP, and the industry in general.

    BT's attitude stinks.
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    Re: UK broadband 'not fit' for future.

    Quote Originally Posted by dangel View Post
    Yeee-haaa for the city folk
    I should cry. I live in the city, 0.5 miles from my exchange, in an area that has access to 50Mbit broadband. Okay, that's too expensive for me anyway but I would've liked 17Mbit or even 6Mbit of the previous ISP. But my landlord, who has an incomprehensible dislike for BT, in order to save a few quid, switched us to the worst ISP I have ever used: TalkTalk. Apart from being capped, my current connection is 0.4Mbit. Who needs traffic shaping/throttling when the connection can be constantly rubbish eh? Granted, I used to praise that speed. 10 years ago.

    (I've offered to pay extra, take over the line ownership so landlord doesn't have to deal with it, but he's just having none of it. This amount of bandwidth is not even enough for streaming iPlayer. I may just have to get my own line - which is a pain because of the initial cost)

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    Re: UK broadband 'not fit' for future.

    TooNice, have you looked into mobile broadband instead?

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    Re: UK broadband 'not fit' for future.

    Not really to be perfectly honest. I always thought they'd be prohibitively expensive?

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    Re: UK broadband 'not fit' for future.

    It's not nearly as expensive as they used to be. And if you are in a city center you should be able to get a good signal. Worth looking in to in my opinion. More restrictive in a way, so you just get a USB dongle rather than being able to use a router, but i would guess you can do much better than 0.4mbit.

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    Re: UK broadband 'not fit' for future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    TooNice, have you looked into mobile broadband instead?
    Mobile broadband can have good headline speeds but the latency is always useless for online gaming.
    400+ ms pings are the norm
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    Re: UK broadband 'not fit' for future.

    Quote Originally Posted by badass View Post
    Mobile broadband can have good headline speeds but the latency is always useless for online gaming.
    400+ ms pings are the norm
    Very true. But it is still worth looking into as an alternative to fixed line broadband. It isn't the best option in many situations, but it does have its benefits.

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    Re: UK broadband 'not fit' for future.

    i live only about 300 metres away from our local exchange and i only get speed of up to 13mb despite my broadband provider who is sky say that i could get 20Mb this just proves how rubbish this countries broadband is compared to other countries

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    Quote Originally Posted by khalabuth View Post
    i live only about 300 metres away from our local exchange and i only get speed of up to 13mb despite my broadband provider who is sky say that i could get 20Mb this just proves how rubbish this countries broadband is compared to other countries
    Yeah, you're so hard done by only being able to have 13Mb...

    And that 300m isn't necessarily the line length...
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    Re: UK broadband 'not fit' for future.

    Quote Originally Posted by TAKTAK View Post
    Yeah, you're so hard done by only being able to have 13Mb...

    And that 300m isn't necessarily the line length...
    i know its quite a lot compared to other people but before i had sky i had aol i only got speeds around 6mb-8mb max, but 13mb still rubbish some other poeple who live around the same distance away get better speed than me i mean one of my cousin gets speed of 18Mb-20Mb

    sorry i know im complaining but i had to get it off my chest as we consumer's in the uk are always getting shortchanged

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    Re: UK broadband 'not fit' for future.

    Quote Originally Posted by khalabuth View Post
    i know its quite a lot compared to other people but before i had sky i had aol i only got speeds around 6mb-8mb max, but 13mb still rubbish some other poeple who live around the same distance away get better speed than me i mean one of my cousin gets speed of 18Mb-20Mb
    ADSL 2+ sync speeds drop off a lot quicker than regular ADSL. So 13mbit ADSL2+ is probably about right for a 6mbit ADSL line. It also depends on the equipment in the exchange, Sky's DSLAMs might be tuned to different parameters than BTs. This might benefit some and penalise others. No way to tell really.

    And as TAK TAK said, just because you and your cousin are roughyl the same distance from the exchange, doesn't mean your phone lines are of equal length. yours may also be picking up more noise from somewhere. Have you followed any of the (many) guides to checking your own house wiring isn't causing you problems? This clears up more issue for people that making changes to the outside main line.

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    Re: UK broadband 'not fit' for future.

    Remove your bell wire (not a euphemism...), unless you're still living in the 70's...

    I'm still limping along at 1.4Mb's which my grandad loves the speed of as he can't even get a 256kb service...

    Ditch the Olympics, sell Essex and lets have a better infrastructure implemented...
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