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    Re: Why do people vote BNP?

    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    ... they don't want foreign people building places of worship, they don't want foreign people wandering around speaking their mother tongue... etcetera. And that can all apply to Muslims.
    Yes, but not all foreigners are Muslims, and not all Muslims are foreigners. I don't think Islam is the deciding factor for most BNP voters...
    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    I don't want either of those things to be happening here in the United Kingdom either. It's plainly wrong and should not be sanctioned.
    What?

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    Re: Why do people vote BNP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    I don't want either of those things to be happening here in the United Kingdom either. It's plainly wrong and should not be sanctioned.
    Would you agree with, say, the deportation of ex-pats from Spain who didn't bother learning Spanish?

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    Re: Why do people vote BNP?

    BNP Supporter on YouTube

    Now that you have made sufficient money out of MY country ,..it is high time you all bought yourselves plane tickets to fly back home to your original native country,..
    You have no need to live here anymore,..You done what you set out to do.
    I'm quite confident in saying that the majority of us real true English-true British people here,..whose family & ancestors have been here for over 1,000 years and who's Celtic & Briton names are written in the Doomsady book,..(long before ****er like YOU arrived)....we can safely do with out your future presence
    Our country was managing quite well before you arrived,..and will do so long after your gone
    Every single comment is like this - You support BNP and you are scum.

    It's a disgusting and filthy party, all those who are a part of it should be the ones being deported.

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    Re: Why do people vote BNP?

    Quote Originally Posted by SammEl View Post
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    Every single comment is like this - You support BNP and you are scum.

    It's a disgusting and filthy party, all those who are a part of it should be the ones being deported.
    See the vid I posted above: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Pol...g_And_Dagenham

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    Re: Why do people vote BNP?

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    Re: Why do people vote BNP?

    I think http://xkcd.com/84/ is perhaps even more apt...?

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    Re: Why do people vote BNP?

    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    Would you agree with, say, the deportation of ex-pats from Spain who didn't bother learning Spanish?
    That is totally different. No-one minds living in a diverse community (if there is such a thing), and many European countries have immigration in and out from other EU places. This is not minded as the European way of life is very similar wherever you go.

    Where cultures actually conflict, and are at odds with the beliefs of the nation being populated, it is a different story altogether.

    Having temples/mosques being built is definitely at odds with the way of life in the UK. How would this be equated to ex-pats in SPain? It simply can't be can it.

    Ex-pats also do not want to change the laws, or convert their new home into another religion.

    I don't care what people do in their own homes, whether they are black/blue/green/christian/muslim/jedi knights.
    What i do care about and object to is the way children are being taught Polish/Urdu in schools and the fact that a VAST proportion of the immigrant popualtion can't even be bothered to learn a language that THEIR home speaks.
    Also that i have to accept this.
    It's not about race or religion...it's migrating to another country, no matter where from or to, and expecting everything to be how you want it, rather than everything being how it should be for the native population.
    The strain on public finances just for interpretors alone must be enormous.



    Do you really think that is unreasonable? I don't.
    Last edited by Blitzen; 26-04-2010 at 01:51 PM.

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    Re: Why do people vote BNP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    What the BNP stands for is clearly wrong in most people's opinion.

    The fact is though, they have no less credibility than Labour/Tory or Lib Dems.

    I am still iundecided where my vote will go, i can however say that:
    Cameron - Clearly the wrong person to lead a major Western country
    Brown - Track record VERY poor. I would however lean this way if he was not at the helm.
    Clegg - Effectively just a Tory that wants a piece of the action
    There is a BIG difference between BNP and the other parties. The difference is the other parties isn't trying to deport your colleague/friend/family/spouse (whatever applies to you) because they aren't "white" enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    When you get to Nick Griffin, although a complete bufoon, at least you can see that he will say what he stands for and not try to dress it up.
    He MUSt have alot of support somewhere else he would not be as prominent as he is now.
    That is totally wrong. Nick Griffin doesn't say what he really wants to say. If he did, he wouldn't be as prominent as he is now. He is trying to appeal to the masses by saying very simplistic statements.

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    Re: Why do people vote BNP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    That is totally different. No-one minds living in a diverse community (if there is such a thing), and many European countries have immigration in and out from other EU places. This is not minded as the European way of life is very similar wherever you go.

    Where cultures actually conflict, and are at odds with the beliefs of the nation being populated, it is a different story altogether.

    Having temples/mosques being built is definitely at odds with the way of life in the UK. How would this be equated to ex-pats in SPain? It simply can't be can it.

    Ex-pats also do not want to change the laws, or convert their new home into another religion.
    You should ask your great grandfathers who fought in the 1st and 2nd World Wars on their views of the Europeans

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    Re: Why do people vote BNP?

    I was discussing in the pub the other day the Halal meat disgrace.

    Did you know that KFC are now trialling HALAL ONLY restaurants in the UK. About 40 of them actually.
    Can anyone else not see that discriminates against so many people but is designed to keep the muslim popualtion appeased?
    A Seikh would not be able to eat there (i think) as it is against their religion.
    I also do not agree, neither do the Animal Rights laws, that this practice should be allowed to go on.
    It's there to keep a minority of our community happy whilst the rest of us can whistle.

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    Re: Why do people vote BNP?

    Quote Originally Posted by usxhe190 View Post
    You should ask your great grandfathers who fought in the 1st and 2nd World Wars on their views of the Europeans
    My Great Grandfathers have been dead a long time.
    In fact, my grand fathers have been dead over 25 years aswell.

    I do not need to ask anyone as i was a front line troop (based in Lympstone), for most of my adult life up until 1999.


    Quote Originally Posted by SammEl View Post
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    Every single comment is like this - You support BNP and you are scum.

    It's a disgusting and filthy party, all those who are a part of it should be the ones being deported.
    Why?
    The comments i admit are digusting, but this 'FREEDOM OF SPEECH' (that we are rapidly losing), is one of the main reason people from not so 'FREE' countries come here.

    When people can't say what they feel.....or in fact draw cartoons (did you not think the muslim upraor to that was totally disproportionate and pathetic) without feeling they will be victimised or even murdered, free speech is lost and everyone may aswell move on out!

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    Re: Why do people vote BNP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    The comments i admit are digusting, but this 'FREEDOM OF SPEECH' (that we are rapidly losing), is one of the main reason people from not so 'FREE' countries come here.
    You have no legal right to freedom of speech in the UK. People just assume they do because they watch a lot of imported TV

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    Re: Why do people vote BNP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    I was discussing in the pub the other day the Halal meat disgrace.

    Did you know that KFC are now trialling HALAL ONLY restaurants in the UK. About 40 of them actually.
    Can anyone else not see that discriminates against so many people but is designed to keep the muslim popualtion appeased?
    A Seikh would not be able to eat there (i think) as it is against their religion.
    I also do not agree, neither do the Animal Rights laws, that this practice should be allowed to go on.
    It's there to keep a minority of our community happy whilst the rest of us can whistle.
    You've chastised me in the past for having a 'money only' outlook, but lets try that here.

    a minority of muslims actually require halal meat, there are few others who care, some jewish people do but they are even more of a minority.

    to cater for the Halal section makes good business sense, especially if you look at the class distribution you will find that they are a significant portion i'd imagine, maybe as high as 10%. That is too much to ignore.

    So, someone like me doesn't care if the chicken has been blessed, or just electrocuted the good old fashioned way. What matters is me paying the price premium.

    So we have something like this

    Cost Of Running Two Kitchens for Halal and Non vrs Cost of Halal meat for all meat sold which doesn't need to be (ie premium*non-halal-sales)

    Now given the cost of the former, if you've got sales of 10% or more I'd imagine it pales into in-significance.

    So why not sell all meat as Halal, you will make more profit, and everybodies happy*!

    *except racist twonks who dislike the idea of eating meat because its halal.
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    Re: Why do people vote BNP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    I was discussing in the pub the other day the Halal meat disgrace.

    Did you know that KFC are now trialling HALAL ONLY restaurants in the UK. About 40 of them actually.
    Can anyone else not see that discriminates against so many people but is designed to keep the muslim popualtion appeased?
    A Seikh would not be able to eat there (i think) as it is against their religion.
    I also do not agree, neither do the Animal Rights laws, that this practice should be allowed to go on.
    It's there to keep a minority of our community happy whilst the rest of us can whistle.
    The only thing wrong on this is I can't eat bacon burgers but I don't usually go to KFC for bacon. The Halal thing I don't care (since Halal just a process of killing animals I think - but then I didn't know how KFC killed the chicken pre-Halal).

    The only detestable thing is that I don't think Halal is a good way to slaughter animals (but not sure on this either). You can see I don't know much about Halal stuff.

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    Re: Why do people vote BNP?

    Quote Originally Posted by usxhe190 View Post
    That is totally wrong. Nick Griffin doesn't say what he really wants to say. If he did, he wouldn't be as prominent as he is now. He is trying to appeal to the masses by saying very simplistic statements.
    Agreed.

    Which is why I drew the comparison earlier of the Nazi 25-point programme and the BNP manifesto... they're effectively the same.

    In fact, when the Nazis came to power even, their policies were almost the same as the BNPs.

    They didn't tell the truth, why do we assume that Nick Griffin is?

    Without going into ridiculous detail on the matter, that's more than enough to convince me never to touch them with a bargepole.

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    Re: Why do people vote BNP?

    Yeah, there should be a law saying that parties have to at least try do what their manifesto said they would when they get elected really (Labour didn't either) - I can't see any of them voting for it tho. And of course we aren't important enough to get a vote on issues that affect all of us.

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