LinkBack URL
About LinkBacksAye. The interviews on Sunday - that will be better viewing.Originally Posted by MadduckUK
Aye. The interviews on Sunday - that will be better viewing.
Hmmm. Personally, I thought (j) had to go. 60 people at £7 per head = £4800? Quick mental arithmetic not your strong point, eh, (j)? And judging by the state of the mess in those food boxes, presentation wasn't (j')s strong point, either. Sugar's graphic description was pretty apt. In fact, if (j) has a strong point, it sure wasn't in evidence this week.
Sure, (n) was a little .... erm .... lacklustre, but for a project manager ((j) ) to not have the vaguest notion of the financials and no hint of a business plan ... well, "numpty" is the word that comes to mind.
But maybe that's why Sugar is worth a tidy fortune and I'm worth .... less than that.
Or ..... with my sneaky hat on, maybe Sugar just wanted to see (j) face his attack dogs in the interview/business plan presentation phase. I must admit to kinda looking forward to that myself, 'cos I'm convinced (j) is way out of his depth if it doesn't include sales or smarmy charm. I have a nasty feeling that that phase is going to see levels of blood-letting last experienced in a Roman amphitheatre when prisoners were 'fed' to the beasts.
yep, I'm sure Sugar is looking forward to realising his "your cards are marked" remark when (j) meets people he can't fondle into submission - would love to see him try to smarm Margaret.
Somehow, the wily ol' Lordi has crafted a show to look forward to from virtually nothing. He is indeed the master businessman.
Could there be a final twist and they all get booted? Oh pulease, puuleassse.
It's an old Carnie trick, isn't it? If you present it right, you can waive the promise of something under the mark's noses, and even though they know they're not really going to get it, you can drag out the suspense and send 'em home both skint and happy about it. Showmanship at it's best.
Jim is not the all-rounder he presents himself as, but he is very good at persuasion and sales. Yes, he is also king of BS, but I reckon the best salespeople are also the best BSer, and while not a trait I admire, is a trait that's necessary. Bottom line, he can add value to a company.
Tom showed that he prefers to follow than to lead, but he can definitely add plenty of value to a company. I reckon that he is also least likely to object not being hired as a partner, but instead be given a position of responsibility. Or perhaps he should try Dragon's Den (if he doesn't win).
I see the two remaining ladies as better suited business partners. I see Helen as marginally less risky, but I don't see their concern about Susan rubbing people off as an issue. As business partners, I don't think she would have to fight as much to assert her authority, and I reckon that this "rubbing people off" thing is only because she has had to assert herself harder than other contestants.
Well, the last 4 are who I wanted them to be based on the impressions I had over the past weeks, so I am not going to be too disappointed regardless of who wins. I favour Helen slightly ahead of Susan but wouldn't mind if my presently least favourite of the last four (previously favourite Jim) wins the show. What I am curious about is to what extent the editing of the show can affect our perception.
Last edited by TooNice; 14-07-2011 at 09:07 AM.
Quite considerably, I'd think. Hugely, really. But we can only go by what we're shown.
Was I the only one to watch it to immediately say "Dumbass, Columbus is spanish" only to be corrected by a friend that he is in fact Italian..... Ooops.
They must ban them from using google or something?!
throw new ArgumentException (String, String, Exception)
I thought he was spanish too. Oh well, the important thing is that he isn't british...
Actually I think specifically addressed that criticism in the last task - I didn't see the start, but for a non-PM he was actively taking control when he could (to the point LS had to intervene in the board room).
History's not my strongest subject. I can usually remember the what but I'm prone to forgetting the when and where. Not really an issue with Google nearby so I'll assume the contestants have limited connectivity. Well, that's pretty obvious really. Who'd not use the 'net when tasked as they've been.
I think I would have enjoyed seeing Melody and Natasha get a grilling in the next round. Neither of them seemed relevant to the competition and, predictably, they've gone. The only reason they lasted so long down to the sheer quantity of plebs before them.
Whilst the firing order's been predictable so far, I've no idea what Sugar's after. Helen and Jim are strong sales and are going to need a partner who can fill in the blanks. Tom is all ideas and details and needs a sponsor, someone to help develop his ideas. Susan, I think she needs a solid mentor and constant supervision. She's evidently willing and capable of learning. With experience and youth on her side, I think she's the strongest remaining contender, at least on paper.
My order from fired to hired would be; Jim, Tom, Helen, Susan, although the latter two could easily swap.
^ I see Helen as been more than just a salesperson though. She's organised, and she can manage people well. What would you consider her greatest weakness? She messed up last week, but she hasn't messed up more than Susan has over the weeks. It's a tough one, we have similar opinion except the order for the last two, and I agree they could easily swap (their business proposal could be the tie-breaker).
Now that I think about it, Helen is more qualified to be PM in this task based on her experience, having worked as a waitress and as manager (to various level), so it is logical for Tom to have let her be PM right away.
Not sure if this is a problem, but Tom has only been PM once, and that was when he was asked by LS. It's probably a bit unfair to judge his performance as a manager when the only time he has been PM, he had to deal with Melody who is exceptionally hard to manage, but we have nothing else to go by. He has common sense, and he is very good at certain roles, but I still wonder about his people management skills.
Last edited by TooNice; 14-07-2011 at 01:47 PM.
Mr "I'm a nice guy do this for me" Jim is a backstabber of the highest order. He's the sort to form allegiances that exclude people he doesn't like. Disruptive and dangerous; that hang dog, innocent look is well practised.
Tom looks to me as if there are conflicting voices arguing in his head all the time; the result is a dithering introvert. He should be in a garden shed somewhere fiddling with stuff that eccentrics fiddle with.
Helen is like watching paint dry. She's probably a safe pair of hands but she won't set the world on fire. I just couldn't be arsed tbh.
Susan is yappy and seems to have unwarranted self confidence especially as she's allowed herself to be bullied for 11 weeks. She is also young and right to be proud of her achievements.
I don't much care who wins. I just hope the interviews tear them to shreds. I must admit I wouldn't fancy facing that lot
ps I thought he was Portuguese...
@TooNice Indeed, Helen's the most decisive and good at delegating, not at all manipulative like Jim. Depending on the size of the group they're running, Tom and Susan can be too easily silenced and distracted.
Helen's major weakness for me is not stepping back and looking where she's going, instead continuing a really pointless exercise. I'm curious as to what her product's going to be. She'll no doubt be detailed and well rehearsed, and of course, incredibly composed. When she believes in what she's selling, there's no stopping her. Will she be able to come up with a credible business on her own though, I'm not so sure.
Tom will be meticulously well detailed in his proposal. Can't begin to imagine what he's come up with. Whatever it is, he's delivered a product before. I just don't think he's had enough retail experience. I reckon his comeuppance will be in sales and marketing. This is where Helen sneaks ahead. Even if her product is unworkable, she'd get that bit right.
Susan's been through the process already. If her idea is sound, she could trump them. It's her delivery that could flounder.
Honestly, the more I think about it, the more reluctant I am to sticking to an order. We only get edited highlights of what goes on. We don't really have a clue who these people are. I certainly don't have a say on who won.
Best of luck to whoever it is (or was, really), it's been a good bit of entertainment. What's up next?
Easy mistake to make, seeing as his famous journeys were under the auspices of the Spanish monarchs.
What's not so easy a mistake to make is to say he's British. I laughed out loud at Tom's "Oh you've got to be kidding me" when Nick queried it, and the penny dropped.
And with Tom at least, the penny dropped very quickly. I'd guess it was just a case of concentrating so hard on so many things in such a short space of time that that detail just didn't get any consideration.
The funny thing is, I knew full well he was Italian (courtesy of a quiz question) but yes, I still said to the wife "He's Spanish". I guess it shows the power of association, and of reacting rather than thinking.
I think every time that stupidity such as this is mentioned it's worth watching this video:Easy mistake to make, seeing as his famous journeys were under the auspices of the Spanish monarchs.
What's not so easy a mistake to make is to say he's British. I laughed out loud at Tom's "Oh you've got to be kidding me" when Nick queried it, and the penny dropped.
And with Tom at least, the penny dropped very quickly. I'd guess it was just a case of concentrating so hard on so many things in such a short space of time that that detail just didn't get any consideration.
The funny thing is, I knew full well he was Italian (courtesy of a quiz question) but yes, I still said to the wife "He's Spanish". I guess it shows the power of association, and of reacting rather than thinking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ss-59fi4nM
To give Susan her credit, at least she did ask if Mexican's loved their children. Her sombreros and crazy moustaches wouldn't have helped. I think they've only just recovered from Clarkson's stereotyping. Venezuela can't be best pleased either
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
My only concern is should I hide my true identity? A costume maybe?