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[Top_gun]

Of course, you'll recall I first referred to it as the Reading Area back around page 7 or 8, when you first decided to compare it to London... with good reason.
But yes, the borough is one such definition of the area and the extent of the town. It's well known as the largest town in the UK and is bigger than some cities.
If you like, we can limit it just to the inner town itself and forget the suburbs, sub-districts and anywhere else that considers itself Reading... But that would require a consistent approach and so, being in the borough of Southwark (which is technically Surrey), you as a Peckham resident would not actually be a Londoner...!!
No-one cares about your view, as that was evidently set in stone from the moment your opinionated perspectives appeared in this thread.
I'm just making sure you're aware of your intentional ignorance.
So you decide one boundary but conveniently forget the other?
Even being very generous and putting the limits around the county of Middlesex area (which doesn't like to consider itself London), that still gives you about 12 miles to Bray, which is further than the distance to Reading, even according to Google.
Since more than three-quarters of British-grown oysters contain norovirus, it was fairly inevitable such a high-volume seller of local produce would get hit, and yet that still didn't dissuade tens of thousands of people who seemed to understand the risk of going anywhere that serves oysters... at least according to that same article from almost a decade ago. Worth nothing that the FD did not lose its stars as a result of the incident, either... Meanwhile in London, The Araki, formerly a 3-star until this year, was completely deleted from the Guide.
There is one change at Clapham... and since you don't live in Paddington, you'd have to make at least one change using that route too.
But while that cash won't buy you much in a London restaurant, and likely not even cover the taxi fare, you'd at least get a full five or seven course for less using it to go outside of London and from higher rated restaurants.
Overpriced? In London? Surely not?
So you missed all the things like the tailors and bespoke leatherware, then? I'm not surprised. You don't seem very interested in looking at any details closely before forming your opinion.
Depends on preferred genre, but if you were in the know, you'd be going to Brighton anyway.
Property price is even better in Reading. Must be all those commuters who'd rather live here than in London.
I'm more entertained by the idea that you need a magazine to tell you what is cool!!

Moreover, you pick one that prefers to pretentiously call itself a "content powerhouse" instead of a magazine, is well known for shilling dubious ticket deals and business marketing support packages, treats its staff badly, lacks editorial integrity and is motivated solely by money... in fact, the more I read about it, the more it sounds like a Tory agitprop rag for the Civil Service.
Honestly, one would think that from all the Tory embracing going on, you'd actually be happy that they won.
I mean, we have all these smart graduates, even from the not-London places like Cambridge, Oxford, Durham, St Andrews, Lancaster, Bath, Loughborough, Exeter, Birmingham, Warwick... and as a collective they still voted Tory.

What ever you wish to draw your boundary with Bray doesn't even matter considering London has a vast number of Michelin star restaurants without risking food poisoning in little old Reading . Even if one closes down we wouldn't miss it.

As for people caring for my view, it's a matter of opinion some will care others won't. Even if they don't it is meaningless anyway! And anyway their views on regurgitated stuff, like the smears on Jeremy Corbyn, are from the rags. Nothing there for me to learn.

There are bespoke tailors and leatherware all over London so again the Staples is a mere tourist trap for tack. Incidentally, I lived literally just around the corner from the Staples and prior to that lived in Islington. Must be something about meliving in trendy areas. Perhaps if I move to Reading then it may have that rejuvenating effect! But then there's no hope for little Reading.

It's good property prices are so low in Reading that when I ready to sell my property then I could buy a whole street there just like in monopoly.

No I don't need a magazine to tell me Peckham is cool, it's mainly for people like you that have no idea about coolness even if it smacks them right in the face.

[TeePee]

I have certainly been convinced of the intellectual superiority of the people of London....

[outwar6010]

I have certainly been convinced of the intellectual superiority of the people of London....

I have certainly been convinced of northerners ability to bury their heads in the sand when it comes to racism. FTFY.

[Saracen999]

Or people voting for Brexit, different people had different reasons for voting the way they did based on their morals, opinions etc.

Or both.

As nobody actually knows why people voted as they did, the best we can hope for is what they say is the reason,

It's very plausible that in traditional Labour areas that voted for Brexit, that neither Brexit nor an anti-Corbyn view would have been enough on it's own to get lifelong Labour areas to switch, but combine both issues and you reach tipping point.

So we may well have some people that switched over Brexit, some that voted against Corbyn, and some that voted because of the mix of both.

What's quite interesting is some good evidence that another factor was a lack of coherence in Remain parties, though to some degree ir's true in Leave parties too.

Look beyond simple outcomes to the patterns of swings between parties in individual swing constituences and you can draw some conclusions from common patterns :-

- Labour lost heavily in most, often in the -7% to -15% or more, and

- Brexit party gained, often around 4% to 5%
- Tories gained, but often only 1% to 3%
- LibDems gained, odten by as much or a bit more than Brexit party.

Not that it did the LibDems or Brexit party much good.

So, first consider where that 4%-ish (typically) that went to the Brexit party went in the 50% or so of seats where they didn't stand? And of course, it's not likely to be to LibDems.

Second, just why was there a modest Lab-> Tory swing, but a much stronger Lab-> LibDem swing? In the latter case, it seems highly likely that those voters are pro-Remain as it seems a Labour-voting Remainer would switch to a BoJo-led Leaver Tory party.

Which suggests that for those ex-Labour voters, it wasn't about Brexit, or at least, not directly. It does suggest that it's either directly an anti-Corbyn (and anti-Corbyn agenda) vote, or it's because of Labour's rather mixed-message fence-sitting approach to Brexit, which we can put down to Labour being split on quite how Remain to be, and indirectly, to poor leadership on that issue.

But in any event, in many constituencies that switched, it was previously largely a Lab/Tory marginal, and while there was a Lab-Tory swing it wasn't huge, and what really put the boot into Labour was the double-whammy of Remainers switching to LibDem and Leavers switching partly to Tory, but in larger numbers to Brexit party.

That double whammy, in constituencies where Labour were first, but Tories were second, even thousands behind, was Labour's death knell because neither LD nor (obviously) Brexit party were ever going to get enough to win, but those thousands switching away from Lab, even though not going Tory, nevertheless eroded the Lab majority and handed it to the Tories.

Perhaps Labour should have given more credence to LD overtures to have a non-aggression pact. If they had, and LDs hadn't stood in strong Lab/Tory fights, and Labour hadn't stood in strong LD/Tory fights, the election might well have had a very different end result with, at a minimum, a much smaller Tory overall majority.

What to blame - FPTP, and Labour leadership's unwillingness to work with the LD's .... which I suspect both Lab and LD voters are now regretting. Oooops.

[Saracen999]

I have certainly been convinced of the intellectual superiority of the people of London....

Really?

Wanna buy a watch? Good price. Absolutely genuine Rolex. Honest.



Note: Sarcasm detector overload.

[Ttaskmaster]

What ever you wish to draw your boundary with Bray

If it were my choice, I'd definitely not, but facts are facts and they're writ for all to see.

doesn't even matter considering London has a vast number of Michelin star restaurants without risking food poisoning in little old Reading

None of which the critics and guides rank as high as Bray, incidentally, which has been the state for well over a decade.
But if you insist on staying in London, I would recommend Hakkasan Hanway Place for Michelin stars... Oh, no, wait, they had food poisoning, too.
OK then, Le Gavroche with its three stars...? No, they were subject to Fifteen criminal charges under the Food Safety Act.
If you fancy Leptospirosis, Simpsons and The Ivy both London restaurants serving London Rat-atouille (well, one was technically mice).
Gordon Ramsay in Chelsea and at Claridge's... Nope, also failing standards, the latter twice.

In fact, many of these "world class" restaurants evidently carry the same risks as any other. Michelin starred places in Denmark and Japan were also hit by norovirus... and RiFF in Valencia actually killed someone.
Seems like you have the highest chance of survival in Reading!

Even if one closes down we wouldn't miss it.

"Can't miss a place you've never been".
Reynolds, M.
Capt. 57th Overlanders.

Even if they don't it is meaningless anyway!

Yes, I think we were all acutely aware of that.

And anyway their views on regurgitated stuff, like the smears on Jeremy Corbyn, are from the rags. Nothing there for me to learn.

Well, those of our graduates who came to the UK to escape Communist states would disagree with you, and their background lends itself to far greater authority than your mere assertion, so...

There are bespoke tailors and leatherware all over London

Yes, including the several who also occupied stalls in the Stables as well as more famous premises... when not showcasing their wares on the catwalks, of course. Being a former resident, you were aware of that, yes?

Incidentally, I lived literally just around the corner from the Staples and prior to that lived in Islington.

Staples? The stationery shop?
Surely London's best and brightest would have better attention to detail?
I was talking about The Stables... and as you'll know, I also lived nearby, but closer to Mornington Crescent. Fewer crowds and even fewer VMG marketing execs.

Must be something about meliving in trendy areas.

What, that your arrival is an omen of devastating fires?
They're not exactly trendy, though... Just pretentious. One look at Slimelight and the Electric Ballroom confirms that.

Perhaps if I move to Reading then it may have that rejuvenating effect! But then there's no hope for little Reading.

Nah, we already have enough hipsters and London-wannabes... We mostly ignore them, and they rarely venture outside the safety of coffee shops until they've grown up.

It's good property prices are so low in Reading that when I ready to sell my property then I could buy a whole street there just like in monopoly.

If they were low, that'd be true... but they're really not. They're increasing as commuters move in. Averages are badly skewed by incomplete new-builds priced low to tempt early buyers, but even those have risen by over £100k in the last year.
But since you're in the market, the place just four houses up the road from me sold for over £2mil earlier this year, so feel free to buy up my entire street!

No I don't need a magazine to tell me Peckham is cool

And yet you not only read it, not only cite it as if it were a credible and unbiassed source, not only rely upon it to substantiate your argument, but seem frighteningly unconcerned by the idea of it spoon-feeding you the propaganda of your new Tory masters...
The only cool thing about Peckham is the appropriately named Bellenden Road.

it's mainly for people like you that have no idea about coolness even if it smacks them right in the face.

It doesn't smack me in the face, because I already know not to believe Tory lies... and your overly protested defence of what you believe to be 'cool' reminds me of a North Korean press release.

[Top_gun]

I have certainly been convinced of northerners ability to bury their heads in the sand when it comes to racism. FTFY.

Brilliant response.

Still, peddling smear stuff from the Tory media goes to show they have not much in the intellectual tank.

[Top_gun]

If it were my choice, I'd definitely not, but facts are facts and they're writ for all to see.
None of which the critics and guides rank as high as Bray, incidentally, which has been the state for well over a decade.
But if you insist on staying in London, I would recommend Hakkasan Hanway Place for Michelin stars... Oh, no, wait, they had food poisoning, too.
OK then, Le Gavroche with its three stars...? No, they were subject to Fifteen criminal charges under the Food Safety Act.
If you fancy Leptospirosis, Simpsons and The Ivy both London restaurants serving London Rat-atouille (well, one was technically mice).
Gordon Ramsay in Chelsea and at Claridge's... Nope, also failing standards, the latter twice.

In fact, many of these "world class" restaurants evidently carry the same risks as any other. Michelin starred places in Denmark and Japan were also hit by norovirus... and RiFF in Valencia actually killed someone.
Seems like you have the highest chance of survival in Reading!
"Can't miss a place you've never been".
Reynolds, M.
Capt. 57th Overlanders.
Yes, I think we were all acutely aware of that.
Well, those of our graduates who came to the UK to escape Communist states would disagree with you, and their background lends itself to far greater authority than your mere assertion, so... :clappin
Yes, including the several who also occupied stalls in the Stables as well as more famous premises... when not showcasing their wares on the catwalks, of course. Being a former resident, you were aware of that, yes?
Staples? The stationery shop?
Surely London's best and brightest would have better attention to detail?
I was talking about The Stables... and as you'll know, I also lived nearby, but closer to Mornington Crescent. Fewer crowds and even fewer VMG marketing execs.
What, that your arrival is an omen of devastating fires?
They're not exactly trendy, though... Just pretentious. One look at Slimelight and the Electric Ballroom confirms that.
Nah, we already have enough hipsters and London-wannabes... We mostly ignore them, and they rarely venture outside the safety of coffee shops until they've grown up.
If they were low, that'd be true... but they're really not. They're increasing as commuters move in. Averages are badly skewed by incomplete new-builds priced low to tempt early buyers, but even those have risen by over £100k in the last year.
But since you're in the market, the place just four houses up the road from me sold for over £2mil earlier this year, so feel free to buy up my entire street!
And yet you not only read it, not only cite it as if it were a credible and unbiassed source, not only rely upon it to substantiate your argument, but seem frighteningly unconcerned by the idea of it spoon-feeding you the propaganda of your new Tory masters...
The only cool thing about Peckham is the appropriately named Bellenden Road.
It doesn't smack me in the face, because I already know not to believe Tory lies... and your overly protested defence of what you believe to be 'cool' reminds me of a North Korean press release.

I don't know about the highest rate of survival considering Reading has three questionable Michelin star restaurants and one with reputation of food poisoning. I make that 1 in 3 to get an illness while in London you have 70 Michelin star restaurants and I very much doubt there are 23 bad ones to make up for the poor ratio in Reading.

Sorry, it's Stables, find it a difficult to compose stuff in this editing window therefore prone to making errors. I used to live on Ferdinand Street as you know is literally yards from the Stables. Used to visit Camden in the 80s and got bored with it by the 90s. The stuff in Stables were pretty naff. I never been a fan of catwalk fashion. Much prefer the underground stuff, more cooler than the pretentious crap. But you wouldn't know that because you're not of that ilk. I can tell because of the sneering attitude, typically seen in real life but also on forums with their snide comments.

Electric Ball room rings a bell. Used to go there on a Friday night during the 80s. Always a magnet for the cool people. No wonder you didn't like it.

I guess Reading isn't much of a magnet for anyone. If you are tired of life you go to Reading.

If you saying the only cool thing you know is Bellenden Road then you don't know Peckham and definitely not a good judge in what's cool.

As for citing Timeout, it was really for clueless uncool people like you. Peckham has been enjoying its reputation for a long time now and Timeout was just late to the game. But there are plenty of international recognition for Peckham over the years.

As for your comment about 4 houses going for £2m in Reading. We have houses that goes for £2m each or more. I may have seen one going for £4m.

[Ttaskmaster]

I don't know about the highest rate of survival considering Reading has three questionable Michelin star restaurants and one with reputation of food poisoning.

Again, one next door that had an incident, none of the three within, of which two have considerable time maintaining their ratings between multiple exec chefs to the point where they are beyond question. You seem to be getting a little lost in the dizzying heights of world class restaurants.

I make that 1 in 3 to get an illness while in London you have 70 Michelin star restaurants and I very much doubt there are 23 bad ones to make up for the poor ratio in Reading.

0 in 3, as above.
Incidentally, you can access health inspection reports on every restaurant in London, with FoI requests.

Sorry, it's Stables, find it a difficult to compose stuff in this editing window therefore prone to making errors.

Expand the window or use the full editor.

Used to visit Camden in the 80s and got bored with it by the 90s. The stuff in Stables were pretty naff.

Some of the vintage traders in the Arches could be considered naff, but the Stables was always far more than that, as you'd well know if you did indeed live there.

I never been a fan of catwalk fashion. Much prefer the underground stuff, more cooler than the pretentious crap.

One and the same. Underground fashion has catwalks too and the crossovers to mainstream and pretentious artistic fashions were numerous. One informs the others. That is how fashion works.
Moreover, since these are 'underground' fashion shops, they're considerably cheaper than (that is to say, sensibly priced compared to) the tourist shops in the high street.

But you wouldn't know that because you're not of that ilk. I can tell because of the sneering attitude, typically seen in real life but also on forums with their snide comments.

I have no need to be snide. If ever I mock you, I'll do it directly and very obviously, just so you're in no doubt!
Any sneering is directed toward your dogmatic conceit and wilfully ignorant embrace of that blinkered perspective, a questionable practice deserved of derision, but typically only found in those below university leaving age who have never worked in the real world, and are thus afforded a temporary measure of leeway.

Electric Ball room rings a bell. Used to go there on a Friday night during the 80s. Always a magnet for the cool people. No wonder you didn't like it.

Electric Ballroom - Camden high street. Domain of underage Goths and 'alternative' culture children, along with their sexual predators who treated it like a meat market.
Those few who weren't one of the above, were so out of their heads on amphetamines it really didn't matter.
That's your idea of cool and cool people?

You might want to stop talking, at this point......!!!!!!!!!

I guess Reading isn't much of a magnet for anyone. If you are tired of life you go to Reading.

So far your guesses have not proven especially accurate... Your judgement and morals are now in question, too.

If you saying the only cool thing you know is Bellenden Road then you don't know Peckham and definitely not a good judge in what's cool.

I had a few guys in my Battalion who were from there. They advised never visiting, but I have since gone to see a couple of them perform stuff a few times, and more recently doing works there myself. Can't say I was ever really taken by the place... 'Grim' is probably the best term, an old-school community struggling to remain together while being crowded out by the hipsters of gentrification. Saw nothing there I hadn't already seen in dozens of other towns.

As for citing Timeout, it was really for clueless uncool people like you.

Uncool, you say?
You're in Camden (supposedly a resident) and chose the Ballroom instead of the Dev.
Hello Kettle, hello Kettle. This is Pot. Black. Over.

Well now I'm clued in as to your perspectives, would you care to explain exactly why you think Time Out, a Tory-esque magazine that (according to its own employees) only promotes what it gets paid to, is in any way an authority or even valid reference on such matters?

As for your comment about 4 houses going for £2m in Reading.

And what comment was that?
I said the place four houses up. One place, one price, £2.02mil.
You've mentioned writing difficulties... what's the excuse for not being able to read properly?

I may have seen one going for £4m.

Add another Mil or two to that and you might be able to afford one of the mansions atop the next hill behind my gaff...

[Top_gun]

Again, one next door that had an incident, none of the three within, of which two have considerable time maintaining their ratings between multiple exec chefs to the point where they are beyond question. You seem to be getting a little lost in the dizzying heights of world class restaurants.
0 in 3, as above.
Incidentally, you can access health inspection reports on every restaurant in London, with FoI requests.
Expand the window or use the full editor.
Some of the vintage traders in the Arches could be considered naff, but the Stables was always far more than that, as you'd well know if you did indeed live there.
One and the same. Underground fashion has catwalks too and the crossovers to mainstream and pretentious artistic fashions were numerous. One informs the others. That is how fashion works.
Moreover, since these are 'underground' fashion shops, they're considerably cheaper than (that is to say, sensibly priced compared to) the tourist shops in the high street.
I have no need to be snide. If ever I mock you, I'll do it directly and very obviously, just so you're in no doubt!
Any sneering is directed toward your dogmatic conceit and wilfully ignorant embrace of that blinkered perspective, a questionable practice deserved of derision, but typically only found in those below university leaving age who have never worked in the real world, and are thus afforded a temporary measure of leeway.
Electric Ballroom - Camden high street. Domain of underage Goths and 'alternative' culture children, along with their sexual predators who treated it like a meat market.
Those few who weren't one of the above, were so out of their heads on amphetamines it really didn't matter.
That's your idea of cool and cool people?
You might want to stop talking, at this point......!!!!!!!!!
So far your guesses have not proven especially accurate... Your judgement and morals are now in question, too.
I had a few guys in my Battalion who were from there. They advised never visiting, but I have since gone to see a couple of them perform stuff a few times, and more recently doing works there myself. Can't say I was ever really taken by the place... 'Grim' is probably the best term, an old-school community struggling to remain together while being crowded out by the hipsters of gentrification. Saw nothing there I hadn't already seen in dozens of other towns.
Uncool, you say?
You're in Camden (supposedly a resident) and chose the Ballroom instead of the Dev.
Hello Kettle, hello Kettle. This is Pot. Black. Over.
Well now I'm clued in as to your perspectives, would you care to explain exactly why you think Time Out, a Tory-esque magazine that (according to its own employees) only promotes what it gets paid to, is in any way an authority or even valid reference on such matters?
And what comment was that?
I said the place four houses up. One place, one price, £2.02mil.
You've mentioned writing difficulties... what's the excuse for not being able to read properly?
Add another Mil or two to that and you might be able to afford one of the mansions atop the next hill behind my gaff...

Writing at 2am is a clear indicator on how boring life is in Reading!!!

I lived in Camden before there was Camden Market. However, was a regular visitor to Camden Market during the 80s and early 90s before it became a tourist haunt. If there's an underground catwalk scene then I wouldn't class that as underground fashion, more like mainstream. But I guess you wouldn't know what it is.

I don't know about Goths in the Electric Ballroom. Not my scene at all. But Friday nights were mainly for the Jazz, funk, soul and hip hop scene. Not exactly Goth type music. But then you wouldn't know as this place was far too cool for you.

Michelin stars are overrated according to Marco Pierre White who handed back his 3 star to Michelin from his restaurant in London as he thought they were worthless. Come to think of it, he's right, if they have them in Reading then there are indeed worthless!

Just at a quick look at Zoopla, and property prices go for over £82 million here in London. So no matter how you skew your figures, it is still little poor Reading. Enough money to buy all the mansions in little Reading.

I wouldn't hold too weight to your friends' view on Peckham. It is more likely it is a case that uncool people hang around uncool people with uncool thoughts. Incidentally, if you have to ask what cool is then you will never know. Again, further evidence to show how uncool you really are. Furthermore, the New York Times reported that Peckham was the cool kids hideout in 2011. We also have Germans coming to Peckham after a German magazine praised Peckham. The idea that I'm using a recent Timeout article to prove how Peckham is trendy couldn't be more wrong.

As for mistakes in the Editor, tried expanding the window. Just don't like it. Same with those little web chat windows. Always making glaring mistakes.

[outwar6010]

https://youtu.be/6I_ZhGHxnHQ

[Ttaskmaster]

Writing at 2am is a clear indicator on how boring life is in Reading!!!

Funnily enough, I was overseeing a work shift in London, fixing the problems that 'genius' graduates caused by trying to flush a mattress down their sewer and wondering why they were then flooding themselves with excrement.

However, was a regular visitor to Camden Market during the 80s and early 90s before it became a tourist haunt.

Before?
It was a tourist trap since about 1983, mate.

If there's an underground catwalk scene then I wouldn't class that as underground fashion, more like mainstream. But I guess you wouldn't know what it is.

Keep guessing. It's amusing.

I don't know about Goths in the Electric Ballroom. Not my scene at all.

Thought you were supposed to be all cool and underground?

But Friday nights were mainly for the Jazz, funk, soul and hip hop scene. Not exactly Goth type music. But then you wouldn't know as this place was far too cool for you.

Again, your definition of 'cool' is highly questionable.... and so far illegal.

Michelin stars are overrated according to Marco Pierre White who handed back his 3 star to Michelin from his restaurant in London as he thought they were worthless.

You're citing a chef who is best known for advertising Knorr stock cubes... and having boasted about how many London has, you're in danger of invalidating even your own opinion, now.

Just at a quick look at Zoopla, and property prices go for over £82 million here in London.

You're not in London, though. You're in Peckham... and your property ain't valued at £82mil.

I wouldn't hold too weight to your friends' view on Peckham.

Oh, so even Peckham residents themselves are wrong, now?
Can you dig your hole any deeper?

It is more likely it is a case that uncool people hang around uncool people with uncool thoughts.

So far you've yet to demonstrate any semblance of coolness, your own self... Just an overabundance of protestation and hole-digging.

Incidentally, if you have to ask what cool is then you will never know.

I didn't ask what it is, I asked what you think it is...
If you're unwilling to support your own assertions, that just invalidates them.

Again, further evidence to show how uncool you really are. Furthermore, the New York Times reported that Peckham was the cool kids hideout in 2011.

If you have to ask what cool is, then you will never know... and here's you having to read a newspaper to find the answer.

We also have Germans coming to Peckham after a German magazine praised Peckham.

Oh come on, even you can do better than that, surely?
Most towns have Germans, for the same reason. We have people coming from all sorts of countries, and not just for the festivals.

The idea that I'm using a recent Timeout article to prove how Peckham is trendy couldn't be more wrong.

And yet that is exactly what you have done. Your own words are right there confirming it.

As for mistakes in the Editor, tried expanding the window. Just don't like it. Same with those little web chat windows. Always making glaring mistakes.

Glaring mistakes... We call those posts.

[Top_gun]

Funnily enough, I was overseeing a work shift in London, fixing the problems that 'genius' graduates caused by trying to flush a mattress down their sewer and wondering why they were then flooding themselves with excrement.

Before?
It was a tourist trap since about 1983, mate.

Keep guessing. It's amusing.

Thought you were supposed to be all cool and underground?

Again, your definition of 'cool' is highly questionable.... and so far illegal.

You're citing a chef who is best known for advertising Knorr stock cubes... and having boasted about how many London has, you're in danger of invalidating even your own opinion, now.

You're not in London, though. You're in Peckham... and your property ain't valued at £82mil.

Oh, so even Peckham residents themselves are wrong, now?
Can you dig your hole any deeper?

So far you've yet to demonstrate any semblance of coolness, your own self... Just an overabundance of protestation and hole-digging.


I didn't ask what it is, I asked what you think it is...
If you're unwilling to support your own assertions, that just invalidates them.

If you have to ask what cool is, then you will never know... and here's you having to read a newspaper to find the answer.

Oh come on, even you can do better than that, surely?
Most towns have Germans, for the same reason. We have people coming from all sorts of countries, and not just for the festivals.

And yet that is exactly what you have done. Your own words are right there confirming it.

Glaring mistakes... We call those posts.

Probably sums your situation Ttaskmaster and sewage link.

Moving on, it's becoming obvious that you have no idea what cool is and I do find extremely amusing watching you struggling with the whole concept.

Camden Market wasn't a tourist trap in 1983. Clearly you made that up.

I couldn't care much about Knorr stock cube ads but if that what floats your boat then that's fine. Still, Marco Pierre White was the first British Chef to win a 3 star Michelin and then turn his back on it says a lot about him. Nowadays the whole Michelin star concept is flawed especially if little towns like Reading have them.

It is quite funny that you stretch the boundaries for Reading Town where I haven't for London. Therefore my point still stands on the £82m property price in London. I haven't backtracked on any of my boundaries at all and I merely was using a single post code for Peckham compared to your myriad of post codes for Reading. In fact that's more damning for little Reading that it can't even compete with a single post code area in London. I mean we've actually got three Michelin star restaurants in Peckham all within 10 minutes walking distance of where I live.

The idea of me hole digging is nothing more than a figment of imagination fuelled by the boredom in living in little Reading.

I don't have to prove myself as cool as I done many things before they become cool. Clearly you have no idea about coolness hence why I use media as sources of evidence which I personally do not care for.

Still, keep repeating the same old rubbish as I'm sure there'll be people willing to listen to you. Even if they do, it says more about them than me!!!

[g8ina]

The idea of me hole digging is nothing more than a figment of imagination fuelled by the boredom in living in little Reading.

Your hole digging is pretty obvious to Admin while you insist on slagging off other members and their domiciles.

Any deeper and I will cover the hole.

Final warning, to all of you, I'm getting fed up making this sort of comment in just this one thread.

I know you all hate each other so take it outside, don't do it in here. Knock it off.

Merry Christmas.

[outwar6010]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...dsmith-peerage

[outwar6010]

Your hole digging is pretty obvious to Admin while you insist on slagging off other members and their domiciles.

Any deeper and I will cover the hole.

Final warning, to all of you, I'm getting fed up making this sort of comment in just this one thread.

I know you all hate each other so take it outside, don't do it in here. Knock it off.

Merry Christmas.

Why no warnings to the admin that have attacked him? Tbh I feel that many mods and a certain ex mod have made the brexit debate etc far more toxic and have divided the forum, when they shouldn't have voiced their stance and instead should have tried to keep things civil.