Oh S**t, im gonna pack that in!
Wow, might slow it down a little?
Yeah, yeah, they wont catch me.
Bas*ards, gunna download twice as much now!!
Dont know what im going to do now?
Never DLed anything in my life, i buy ALL my music Legit!
Suprisingly they are actually going after anyone by the looks of it ...Originally Posted by Famished
Does anyone know how they decide who to go after? As they have to go to the ISP with a set of people - not the other way around where they can just take they're pick.
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They take a look at who is sharing data on the networks like kazza and winMX and imesh and then trace the IP back the ISP. They then get a court ruling to enable the ISP to give out your details.
The best networks are emule and edonkey network and general newsgroups really.
My understanding is that it's not actually illegal to download stuff, only to upload or distribute it... So the message being spread around is along the lines of 'don't share and you'll be fine', so everyone stops sharing and the whole thing collapses...
If you download copyrighted items then you are breaking the law!!!
The idea the P2P networks want to get across is that its not their problem that people are using their network for copyrighted material.
Whether that's true or not, to my knowledge nobody's ever been sued for downloading, because there's no way the RIAA / MPAA / whoever can tell what people are downloading. You get caught by uploading all or part of a file to one of their bots, since distributing copyrighted material is an offence and they've got the evidence to show that you were doing just that.
The 'downloading is bad' message wasn't really getting across, so suing a few people for uploading, and telling the rest that if they don't upload they'll be fine, means nobody shares, and the network collapses.
EDIT: I just remembered, if you own an orignal copy of a CD or DVD, say, then it is legal to download it because you already own it. Effectively it's a (legal) backup copy. Since it's impossible to prove whether you own an original or not, downloading is effectively legal. It's the distributing that's illegal.
Last edited by Akumu; 28-03-2005 at 12:59 PM.
btw, when you download stuff on p2p, it usually shares the incomplete data, so unless you're downloading legit files you're still at risk.
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I've bought about 3 albums in my life, I just download albums using BitTorrent and stick them on my Mp3 player/keep them on my pc.
I do buy DVD's from play.com quite often.
The only file sharing I do is when a friend asks for a song or two over MSN.
Am I hurting anyone by not paying for the music I have? No. Think otherwise? Tell someone that cares.
by using bittorrent you're sharing copyrighted materiel therefore you're file sharing.
If everyone only bought 3 albums in their life, and downloaded the rest, where would the artists be? you would be paying at LEAST double what you do now to go see them at gigs, and there'd be considerably less bands out there (this may be a good thing or a bad thing). All in all, it DOES hurt the artists. Its them who lose out. you wouldnt like people to just steal (which is basically what it is you're doing) something that you had put your hardwork into then just pass copies of it off to other people. You wouldnt be getting anything from it.
think about other people instead of yourself and stop being so bloody selfish.
I know. So?
This isn't the case though, is it. Go watch Cribs or something. They seem to be getting by.
By all means download an album, but if you enjoy it, buy it.
If you don't delete it and don't share it.
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That is because the majority of people buy records still. And the people on cribs are the rich pop stars. Smaller bands would be hit hard if their fans just downloaded their music. Fair enough the record companies make a big slice of the money, but the bands suffer as well. It would probably not be economically viable for smaller bands to keep going if nobody actually bought their CD's. So if you like a band, help them keep making music. Simple. Ps Michael, they are after you!
Not around too often!
Oh, crap. *Deletes all illegal stuff from computer*
Alot of what you see on cribs and in music video's is rented cars and jewelry, the cash artists use to buy these house's doesn't usually come from record sales as they only get a very small percentage of the slaes, mosta the cash goes to distribution, advertising, record companies and managment. In all seriousness you're not only harming the artist but your destroying the chances of real up and coming musicians, after all, why invest in a new band when you can spend the same amount creating a boy band that'll get guaranteed sales because the demographic of customers that kinda music is aimed at don't use bit torrent, don't know the first thing about news groups and have to pay for their music every time. This is why if I enjoy an album I'll buy it either right there n then or when it comes down in price a few months later and delete the mp3's.
Yeah, thats the big the REALLY annoyes me, not only am i getting ripped of, im getting ripped of by stupid record labels, like [yuck]SONY[/yuck] and the rest
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only if you buy music produced by those record companies. Without the big record companies, that produce your fave band's songs, your fave bands wouldnt be able to produce music.
If you're into smaller, lesser known bands, if you dont buy their CDs, they can produce any more and so you wont be hearing any more songs from them.
it's a big chain reaction. These people rely on you to buy their records to stay doing what they're doing. If you like their music, buy it, if you dont, dont. Thats how it works. By all means, download new music as a "taster" but if you do like it, then buy it. There's no reason why you shouldnt.
It really doesn't cost that much to record some songs in a studio... I don't think it would kill them off, the little bands that is, besides, the less popular the band the more likely it is you won't find them on the internet to download...
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