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Why? It's looking like most people will stick with XP. Ironically, XP will be Vista's biggest competitior.
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Yup, I'd agree with that - and MS know it too. It's one of the reasons why Vista _has_ to be good - otherwise most people won't upgrade!
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Well, I can't see a mad dash here to upgrade; XP does what we want, and so does Office XP (in some cases, 2000 does very nicely too).
I want to upgrade as soon as Vista comes out :S (I mean OS upgrade). And by that time I expect I will have an R600 with my RD600and E6600
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Because I'm looking to get a new PC over the next few months. MacOS does everything that XP/ Vista can do and seems to have a damn sight fewer problems. The hardware is a wee bit pricier but not by much...
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ahem cough *ubuntu* *suse* cough.
seriously though the reason why people are getting annoyed with these delays is because we know its being delayed, get me?
I mean how long have we known about longhorn, vista? and when was the first 'realeas' date set? If MS are not confident that it will be released when they say it will be released then why set a release date? It does get annoying!
I can see a few more problems with vista, the amount of versions for one and i cant see it being something which justifies a thousand years of development or living up to the hype, which is gradually getting lower any way.
..because in the real world you have to set the goalposts up somewhere and when you're taking on something as mindblowingly big as rewriting Windows there's a good chance you'll overshoot, particularly if you give a cr@p about it being a good product. We just overshot out release deadline by about 3 months purely due to all the issues turned up during testing and the need to get a solid product out the door (our customers can spend a million on a system).
Too many versions yes. Will it justify the time spent on it? Wait and see. I'd pay for a new version of Windows just for the following: user-mode drivers, proper USB stack, better networking, faster gaming (DX10 has less overhead by long way), faster desktop apps (GPU does rendering freeing CPU from the task) and (for the first time it seems) a decent focus on security.
Beta 2 is really rather sucky compared to later builds - dramatically so in fact..
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I've nothing against OSX it's just that it doesn't really er.. have some major selling point to someone like me. I suppose you can now buy a macintel and therefore run windows and get the best of both worlds but (personally) I prefer linux as an alternative (if any) as it's free, hard independant and (if you're anal) slighty better built. To say OSX can do everything that Windows can do is a bit of a falsehood too - it can't understand 1000's of bits of hardware, nor can it run very many of the games either. That's not to say it's not a 'nice' OS it's just not the shining beacon of light that perhaps some make it out to be and i'm sure glad it's around to force MS to care more about UI choices etc.
As long as you end up happy then it's all good by me
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I don't think it was ever back in 2004 was it?
I tend to agree with everyone else here that it's best to wait for a totally finished product, although it is frustrating because my PC is getting towards then end of its gaming life, but I'm trying to leave the upgrade until the release of vista.
I liked beta 2 so I can imagine the newer versions far exceeding it
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I'm fairly sure it was. I was reading PC Pro the other day and I'm sure Jon Honeyball said that was an original release date.
As for MacOS X not recognising loads of different hardware - it's not as if it needs to does it? And games? Pfah! I've got a 360 for themI think that it's really coming to a stage where the OS doesn't really matter. OSX, Linux (in all it's variations) and Windows Whatever all do the same job and do it well. If you're not after playing games then you're spoilt for a choice. The only difference is the interface and even then it's a relatively minor difference.
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We have a Vista BETA, surely that will hold you up until its finally comes out (yes I am aware the BETA has an expirery date).
But as Kasavian said, it IS just an OS, in my opinion they can delay it another whole year to make it better and more secure etc.
However, we could have another HL2, where it doesn't look or surprise as much when its released... ah well, lets just wait n see what happens eh?
how much do you think vista will cost full product?
This is pretty much the main difference between apple and microsoft, XP SP2 was free. SP2 is a major contributing factor in Vista Delay as is the 64bit edition server 2003. Apple have this intresting £100 a douse policy, bringing out virtually nothing new as far as a programmer developing on their system is concerned. This is apple's major failing it getting uptake in the real world, outside of homes and product placement.
The thing about something like vista is its almost a total re-write. XP and 2k where extensions to NT. Vista so much is re-written totally.
Have a play with the public beta if you can't wait, and you will begin to understand.
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No. This is Apple's major success in getting people to willingly pay for annual upgrades to their OS. Microsoft would desperately love to have this happening with Windows but people are too suspicious of them for this to happen. I also reckon that Apple's uptake in the "real world" will increase as the differences between OSs become minimal, people rely on consoles more for gaming and, of course, the iPods spread teh Apple message.
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The Pillars of Britain, Foundations of the Reich, Cracks in the Pillars.
My books are available here for Amazon Kindle. Feedback always welcome!
I'd be interested to see exactly how much of Vista's code is new.
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