Hosting-unlimited hacked

[BoBo1972]

He's denied it? What a coward.

My contribution to this thread, it to forewarn and make aware to people of the conduct of HU, after my experience with them. If you are happy there, good for you and i wish you luck. But hopefully some people have listened, and this thread then has served its justice,in my book.

All i can say is,the more i learn of them, the more happy i am to be away from them.


*To who ever replied to me about validating Dougie email ( sorry i can't remember who it was now). I meant how can i prove it here? As BS, pointed out, just showing a screenshot of my inbox is not a validation to people reading here,of that my email from Dougie admitting reading my pm's, is genuine or not. And that i could of doctored it in photoshop...........
Why anyone would think,that someone would bother to go to those lengths is beyond me. But there you go.

[yogi]

yogi: Whoop-ti-doo. At least one person in the company could (possibly) have police associations, based on that. This hardly justifies the claim that both are currently police-men working full time in that field, which is highly unlikely, from what I've seen.

I agree with you regarding Kevin - i doubt he's a policeman - there's nothing to support that assertion that i've seen. And there is a slight chance it's nothing but a coincidence. BUT it'd be an amazing coincidence.


As for any future 'official' statement - i wouldn't believe a word they say!!

I think the posts in this thread say a lot about Hosting-Unlimited - and i think it's absolutely clear that they are a pitiful excuse for a host.

I also urge everyone to consider leaving a review here - http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews-all-103740.html

[DwainePipe]

Actually, there was a great deal of other detailed information concerning both of them available on Google some time ago. And not least someone's public photo album which included photos of his 'panda car' at Goltho Grange, his attendance of the award 'ceremony' at the Metropolitan Police Service with Kevin (with a quick shot of Ian Blair). It must have been (wisely) removed some time ago as well. Also, the individual photos mentioned previously, precisely matched those shown in that album. The awards ceremony was even briefly mentioned in their forums as an upcoming brief absence when it was due to occur. And even BurningSnowman implies full knowledge of their positions when he mentions things like 'can I maintain my right to silence' in response to a posting in their forum by Dougie.

The denial is surprising and infers a more worrying side to those running HU. And as a CPSO for the Metropolitan Police Service, maybe one should know better in his 'moonlighting' activities? I'd rather not totally 'lead a horse to water' any more than I may have already, but continued denial that they are both full time Police Officers is absurd, unless of-course they have just recently resigned (which would be contrary to the information available at the Met)? Being full time Police Officers would of-course also help to explain the lack of responses to some extent, given the usual shift working patterns that they have to suffer. Also, being Police Officers does not entitle them to have an alternative level of honesty and integrity in their 'out of work' hours time, much as most government services positions wouldn't, although such positions should imply fine upsatnding citizens and not what we seem to be experiencing in and out of HU. And a working life in public office does not constitute their personal lives. Perhaps if HU's clientele knew of their usual occupations they would have something more of an empathy for their predicament?

No one can deny that there is more than one 'Joe Blogs', in fact there is more than one PC Dougie Brown in the UK. But please don't deny the reality, its worse than a red faced politician's response. There could of-course be concern as to what kind of 'trouble' a Policeman could cause an individual when they are cornered with a potentially embarassing situation.

This all gives emphasis to the question .. why deny it?

[MD]

yogi I have removed your thread - As tom stated - this is not personal and there is no need for such information as you posted to come into this.

Matt.

[BurningSnowman]

DwainePipe: I said it seemed unlikely. I may be wrong. I'm not 'denying' or confirming anything, cos I don't know. I may well have found a different 'source' to you, but I've explained why at least one the claims seemed unlikely to me.

Your comments stating that I clearly have full knowledge of this show that you are blatantly speculating on at least some level, one of the few things I can say for certain. I have absolutely no previous knowledge of the claims you make, no matter how convenient it is to twist posts of mine into 'evidence' because I've used a particular figure of speech.

Alongside many with valid concerns and complaints, there are some very determined, bitter people in this thread who clearly don't care who they're actually posting "against" (or how accurate their claims are) when trying to turn things personal for no reason. This is now far outside the bounds of constructive discussion, so I'm going to leave you to "dig dirt" and invent conspiracy theories on your own, if that's okay.

To save my mate yogi a post: Yes, this is clearly an HU-guided move that signals the end of the company (and the whole universe, in fact) and not a decision of my own as an independent human being. Yes, this clearly means I've lost all arguments in this thread, even where the other side made no sense whatsoever. And yes, this has everything to do with HU support and staff even though I'm totally unrelated to them.

[DwainePipe]

To save my mate yogi a post: Yes, this is clearly an HU-guided move that signals the end of the company (and the whole universe, in fact) and not a decision of my own as an independent human being. Yes, this clearly means I've lost all arguments in this thread, even where the other side made no sense whatsoever. And yes, this has everything to do with HU support and staff even though I'm totally unrelated to them.

Wow, I'll have whatever he's drinking

I don't see such bitterness or conspiracy theories, I just see anger at being let down, disappointment at what constitutes a broken supply contract, maybe even the seeking of a place to discuss the problems when they can't or are prevented from doing so in the obvious place .. at HU itself.

You seemed to say that Dougie denies the claim in your previous post though.

But you are acting as an agent for HU, by being a forum mod and speaking out on their behalf here. Can't you do something to bring about change, that's fair enough to ask isn't it?

[Atomic]

Guess I'm lucky that I've only noticed my site being down for about 20mins in the last few months...

[yogi]

BurningSnowman (the initials BS seem quite appropriate) seems to ignore the obvious truth of the matter. There are only so many coincidences that can be ignored.
You seem to be on another planet - you constantly complain about the people posting in this thread - i'm not sure why though. No one has said anything that is false. But yet you seem to wish to surpress people's opinions.

Furthermore, there have been several posts by people unrelated to the main discussion - and it is clear Hosting-Unlimited.net have let several people down (regardless of PC Dougie Brown's main profession).

(since i'm not allowed to post 'personal' information - i'll keep it general in case anyone wonders what was mentioned) - Hosting-Unlimited sponsor several police forums. On which a person going by the same name and age as the owner of Hosting-Unlimited.
(i hope that is general enough not to be deemed 'personal' - as all that information, along with the PC's police number and station is freely available via google).


http://uptime.alertra.com/uptime.php...937&abrv=Delos
Delos has now managed an incredible "4 hrs, 47 mins, 29 secs" of downtime so far this month. That surpasses last month and ensures the uptime for this month will definitely be below 99.4%!


Atomic - you're definitely lucky, m8.
To check all their stats - just replace the server name at the end of the above url.

[Gordy]

I don't know why you keep attacking Burning Snowman he's being perfectly reasonable stop being obstinate for god sake.

And the fact their service is bad doesn't mean you have to find and post info about the owners what the crap has that got to do with things, take a step back and smell the coffee.

I plan on moving when I find a suitable host I don't need to post crap end of...

[yogi]

I don't know why you keep attacking Burning Snowman he's being perfectly reasonable stop being obstinate for god sake.

And the fact their service is bad doesn't mean you have to find and post info about the owners what the crap has that got to do with things, take a step back and smell the coffee.

I plan on moving when I find a suitable host I don't need to post crap end of...

He said:

Alongside many with valid concerns and complaints, there are some very determined, bitter people in this thread [...] This is now far outside the bounds of constructive discussion, so I'm going to leave you to "dig dirt" and invent conspiracy theories on your own, if that's okay.

He clearly intended to provoke a response - and continues to do so (with veiled attempts at excusing Hosting-Unlimited) - gets a response - and then complains about it. (if it vexes him so much - then there's no need to reply - since my comments are so 'unreasonable' anyone will see that. (Although i think the truth of the matter speaks for itself)).

I don't think such comments are "perfectly reasonable". They are clearly biased and, given the evidence, naive.

As for the information with regards to what the owners do - it is VERY relevant!!!!
I'm sure a lot of (potential) customers would like to be aware that the hosting company is being run by people with full-time jobs (if that is indeed the case) and more as a hobby than a source of full time income.
Anyone with any experience with hosts should be aware that the better service is usually associated with people that are running that company 24/7 - not merely as a hobby!!!
I also think it says a lot about the owner; his mannerisms and the way in which he treats his customers. I think the fact that he may (or may not) be a policeman is supported by the condescending manner in which he addresses customers, and his sometimes abrupt and unhelpful manner.
Furthermore, I think one of the reasons he feels he can treat customers as he does (see other users posts regarding being suspended for complaining about the poor service) - is because he isn't reliant upon the income from the hosting business.

It is for these reasons that i think the fact that he has another job is not only relevant - but extremely relevant.

I think it is you that needs to "smell the coffee". Given all that's been said about them, and the latest revelations - i think anyone knowing this information would be insane to consider them (Hosting-Unlimited.net) worthy of hosting anything at all.

And the reason i continue to post is to make as many people as possible aware of the sort of things to expect from H-U!!! I want people to avoid the trouble i've had with them - there are hundreds of other hosts: hosts that care about customer service; technical support; uptime; professionalism; etc; etc.

[yogi]

just noticed this post via google:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpo...9&postcount=41
posted on 02-15-2005:

You want the truth. Man they blow. Dougie, the co owner is abusive and cannot take constructive critiscim. The services were down more than they were up, cpu loads 2+ quite often. Mysql constantly dying.

They cannot take any critisism <sp> whatsoever. I posted a few questions regarding the quality of their service in their forums and it was promptly deleted.

My advice - stay well clear.

I guess some things never change!: over a year ago people were complaining about Dougie's attitude.

Just goes to show - that it's not a limited few people suddenly complaining - the issue of the owner's poor attitude goes back a long time and isn't anything new!!

[seedy]

Yogi, I was determined not to get involved anymore with this thread as its gone to far, but you really need to chill.
I was on your side of the argument and to a certain extent still am as I too have been really annoyed at H-U's service lately.
However, with you, its clearly personal. You really should stop slating H-U and get on with your life.
The fact is H-U were an excellent host prior to the recent problems, both regarding their service and support and I'm sure once the problems are sorted, they'll return to being just as good.
Yes, they have their thorns and yes they have their issues, but show me a host who doesn't - or won't let on that they do.
Mate, seriously, post facts, not rubbish you find on the net. Anyone can write in forums - especially people as disgruntled as you.
I nearly left H-U a few weeks back as I was so annoyed with my down-time, but its sorted now and my site is up, running and fast. Yes, I've posted on here about H-U, but I've posted facts, not slander.
For your info: Support answered a query today within a few hours and my issue was sorted out just as quickly.
Ease off a bit mate, this isn't a place for you to carry out your personal vendetta and to be honest, it's all a bit boring now.

[Gordy]

Yogi, I was determined not to get involved anymore with this thread as its gone to far, but you really need to chill.
I was on your side of the argument and to a certain extent still am as I too have been really annoyed at H-U's service lately.
However, with you, its clearly personal. You really should stop slating H-U and get on with your life.
The fact is H-U were an excellent host prior to the recent problems, both regarding their service and support and I'm sure once the problems are sorted, they'll return to being just as good.
Yes, they have their thorns and yes they have their issues, but show me a host who doesn't - or won't let on that they do.
Mate, seriously, post facts, not rubbish you find on the net. Anyone can write in forums - especially people as disgruntled as you.
I nearly left H-U a few weeks back as I was so annoyed with my down-time, but its sorted now and my site is up, running and fast. Yes, I've posted on here about H-U, but I've posted facts, not slander.
For your info: Support answered a query today within a few hours and my issue was sorted out just as quickly.
Ease off a bit mate, this isn't a place for you to carry out your personal vendetta and to be honest, it's all a bit boring now.

Couldn't agree more, read this and take note yogi!

[yogi]

The fact is H-U were an excellent host prior to the recent problems, both regarding their service and support and I'm sure once the problems are sorted, they'll return to being just as good.

Anyone that's honest will agree that H-U are average AT BEST!
Their uptimes haven't been good in a long time, m8 - and the 'support' only basic (anything requiring actually technical support will need refered to the 'proper' support rather than the first line support 'team'). Customer service is severely lacking. And the forum (which to Burningsnowman's credit does have some excellent people that know their stuff) is 'unofficial' and not provided by them as an official means of support.
And an aim of "99.80%" uptime is pathetic.
I'm not sure how it could be described as "excellent" recently (certainly, not for a long, long time - a year or two).
Honestly, m8 - if you think that's excellent - you'd be amazed by the sort of service offered by other hosts. (99.9% uptime guarantees, or a month free; support tickets responded to within guaranteed times; better cpanel interfaces; decent ping speeds; non-overloaded servers; etc; etc. And if you shop about, all at about the same price as Hosting-Unlimited. Whilst their load-balancing idea sounds good - i'd prefer a host that isn't going to need to rely on load-balancing to maintain uptime.)

Yes, I've posted on here about H-U, but I've posted facts, not slander.
For your info: Support answered a query today within a few hours and my issue was sorted out just as quickly.

I assume you mean libel and not slander.
Tell me what i've posted that is false and malicious and i will gladly withdraw it.
Whilst i'll freely admit i'm a "disgruntled" customer - i don't think i've said anything that is untrue.

[yogi]

http://uptime.alertra.com/uptime.php...937&abrv=Delos

September:
Outages: 18
Downtime: 5 hrs, 35 mins, 49 secs
Uptime: 97.986%



And no comments from PC Dougie on their forums at all - neither apologising for the terrible service nor giving details of when that server will eventually be migrated.

[scwuff]

Just be grateful you're not on eros, that's been down since 5.55pm tonight.

3 hours offline so far.