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    3d Mark 2001 SE is a bit weird....

    16900. Not as high as I thought. But then my system is not the fastest, bandwisth not the best.

    On 2003 the CARD is normally the limiter...on 2001 the cpu / mem is too

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    If it is Vanilla do you have to put Strawberry sauce on it or is it sweet enough? (I am talking of it as if it is ice cream)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33
    I'd love to get this in an FX system...a reall yfasy 64bit beast OR Pentium Extreme...cos my system is definately not showing this card at it's best.

    Haven't run 2001 yet..will do later Will also see if the card will go higher too...cos I just whacked it up to 375/750 in one go...not exactly scientific

    Shall try increments of 5...I guess the core is the beast...the ram is gonna be the slow bit
    I could test it in a 2.7ghz athlon system for you if you want

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    The 6800 are good cards.

    I got an Inno3D 6800 from Dabs for £180

    http://www.dabs.com/uk/channels/comp...quicklinx=37XH

    Managed to overclock it to 380/850 with the stock cooler.

    Had to RMA it as the card didn't output a DVI signal between the post screens and windows, couldn't boot up with DVI at all.

    Think my problem was a rare one as other people never reported the same problem.

    I'm in two minds whether to order another or push the boat out for a 6800GT.

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    I highly reccommend taking the splurge and making the jump to a GT, those extra 4-pipes make a hell of a difference and you will seriously notice it in future games. In the SOURCE engine (see the thread with the benchies) with all details whacked up, the 6800 trails the GT and Ultra by as much as 50% in some cases. And 6800's are unmoddable to 16-pipes too.
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    And 6800's are unmoddable to 16-pipes too.
    Rivatuner can now mod them to 16 pipes Whether all the pipes are fully intact is the question, but you have the same problem with the X800s.

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    I wish the availability of the 6800 series would improve. The card's have been out ages and stocks are still poor.

    You've got 6800's selling between £180-£240

    6800GT's from £256-£320

    6800 Ultra's from £340-£380

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    I heard its impossible to flash back though on a 6800, once you flash a GT or Ultra BIOS that fails, you're stuck with an RMA or paperweight... whereas ATI you can flash it back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuruJockStrap
    I wish the availability of the 6800 series would improve. The card's have been out ages and stocks are still poor.

    You've got 6800's selling between £180-£240

    6800GT's from £256-£320

    6800 Ultra's from £340-£380

    That is just wrong - there is loads of stock just sells out quick - I know Scan had 200 odd Gainwards on a Friday had them all gone by Monday

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    Quote Originally Posted by David
    I know Scan had 200 odd Gainwards on a Friday had them all gone by Monday


    Looks like the demand for then is too great.

    It's a pain in the butt because I've still got Far Cry and Doom 3 to play through but I want a 6800GT to do it justice.

    1280x1024 with all the eye candy, to match the native res of my TFT.

    My 9800 flashed to pro speeds struggles at that.

    Plays Enemy Territory and Call of Duty nicely, just the new batch of games and upcoming ones (HL2 and F.E.A.R - god that looks good!) are starting to struggle.

    Had the 9800 for a year now and it's given me stellar service.

    Might pre-order the BFG 6800GT OC from PC World, but I'm hearing reports that the custom cooling BFG have on there is not as good as the reference nvidia cooler.

    BFG shipped their early batches of cards with the reference cooler but are now shipping with their own custom one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richdog
    I heard its impossible to flash back though on a 6800, once you flash a GT or Ultra BIOS that fails, you're stuck with an RMA or paperweight... whereas ATI you can flash it back.
    Where did you read that ?
    I should think that even if you totaly screw the card up, booting off a PCI card should allow you to reflash it.
    Ive not read about this at all, but it certainly seems weird if its true (and id like to know how it works !)
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    RivaTuner is a software mod.

    If you soft mod a 6800 to enable the extra 4 pipes and it screws up, simply disable the option in RivaTuner and reboot, then back to 12 pipes.

    If you physically flash a 6800 with a 6800GT bios for example and the extra 4 pipes don't work, your basically stuffed.

    The 6800GT bios would enable the 4 pipes but when you flash back to the 6800 bios, the extra 4 pipes would still be enabled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuruJockStrap
    RivaTuner is a software mod.

    If you soft mod a 6800 to enable the extra 4 pipes and it screws up, simply disable the option in RivaTuner and reboot, then back to 12 pipes.

    If you physically flash a 6800 with a 6800GT bios for example and the extra 4 pipes don't work, your basically stuffed.

    The 6800GT bios would enable the 4 pipes but when you flash back to the 6800 bios, the extra 4 pipes would still be enabled.
    If you do a full reflash the BIOS, where does the card get the information to use the 4 piplines from ?
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    Here you go Agent, I found it for ya.

    Before getting to the tests, I can’t help expressing my thoughts on the subject that worries every good overclocker with respect to the GeForce 6800. So, the question sounds like this: Is it possible to turn on all of the 16 pipelines on the NVIDIA GeForce 6800?

    Yes, it is! This is easy: just flash the BIOS from the GeForce 6800 Ultra. After the BIOS re-flash, the graphics processor enables all 16 pixel pipelines and the card becomes… NON-OPERATIONAL!

    Why? Because those four missing pipelines hadn’t been disabled just for nothing – they have certain defects, which show themselves as artifacts in 3D applications after you enable those pipelines. You won’t have the opportunity of returning things back easily: after flashing back the BIOS from the 12-pipelined GeForce 6800 you’ll see that the situation remains the same – the card still has 16 pipelines and also has those 3D artifacts. In order to disable the defective pipe-work and restore the card’s operability you will need special software and a specially modified version of the BIOS.
    Read it here... http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...6800-oc_5.html
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    I was doing some google searches on this today and it IS possible to flash it back. Its just not a simple process anymore

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