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    Make XP machine permanently boot into safe mode with networking

    Hello,

    I'm using an XP computer as a bridge to get internets to our two Xbox 360's. At the moment, the PC (Dell dimension 2350, 2.0ghz celeron, 512mb ram) takes a while to start up. Safe mode with networking would make it boot much quicker. Does anyone know how to make it so it does the following

    - Boots up and gives me the option to boot to any mode, so if I actually want to do something on it I can.
    - Default's after 10 seconds of nothing to safe mode with networking

    If that makes sense?

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    Re: Make XP machine permanently boot into safe mode with networking

    Why not just fix the cause of the slow boot? Possibly a startup app, or a dodgy driver that you can uninstall if you don't really need.
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    Re: Make XP machine permanently boot into safe mode with networking

    It's an old machine, always started up slow. 7 years old.

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    Re: Make XP machine permanently boot into safe mode with networking

    Doesn't XP use hard drives in PIO mode while in Safe Mode?

    Seems really strange that Safe Mode is quicker than a normal boot. I think Steve is right, there is something else wrong with the system.

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    Re: Make XP machine permanently boot into safe mode with networking

    Buy a router? Stops the need in having a computer on for you to use the Xbox on the net.

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    Re: Make XP machine permanently boot into safe mode with networking

    I would normally suggest that you boot and have a look in a certain microsoft config program, but if your the kinda person that'd rather boot in safe mode than fix the problem your probably not the kinda person that should be messing about with config programs.

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    Re: Make XP machine permanently boot into safe mode with networking

    Quote Originally Posted by Trash Man View Post
    Buy a router? Stops the need in having a computer on for you to use the Xbox on the net.
    I do have a router. But it's downstairs. Wireless adapter for Xbox 360 = £50

    Quote Originally Posted by [GSV]Trig View Post
    I would normally suggest that you boot and have a look in a certain microsoft config program, but if your the kinda person that'd rather boot in safe mode than fix the problem your probably not the kinda person that should be messing about with config programs.
    I know what MSCONFIG is, don't patronize me.

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    Re: Make XP machine permanently boot into safe mode with networking

    Quote Originally Posted by Mattbot2 View Post
    I know what MSCONFIG is, don't patronize me.

    In which case... check the /SAFEBOOT box and NETWORK radio button in boot.ini tab of MSCONFIG.

    Seriously though, that hardware shouldn't take too long to boot a vanilla install of XP.

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    Re: Make XP machine permanently boot into safe mode with networking

    Quote Originally Posted by Mattbot2 View Post
    I know what MSCONFIG is, don't patronize me.
    I don't think he's patronising you, more he's making the point that fixing the cause of the problem would be a better way to tackle this, but that you don't seem to want to.

    But do as the previous poster says and that should give you safe mode w/ networking.
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    Re: Make XP machine permanently boot into safe mode with networking

    Quote Originally Posted by Mattbot2 View Post
    I know what MSCONFIG is, don't patronize me.
    I was stating fact
    If you'd rather find a work around and not fix the actual problem, that is your problem, believe me if I were patronising you, you know. You claim to know what MSCONFIG is but missed the /safemode option, maybe you dont know it as well as you think you do...

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    Re: Make XP machine permanently boot into safe mode with networking

    To be honest the most efficient solution would be to dual boot linux on a separate partition - you could then install only the network daemons etc that were needed to make your pc work as a network bridge and linux would not have to load up anything else (GUI etc) when it boots up. Im afraid i wouldnt know how to install a specialised setup such as that but im sure somebody here might be able to help

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    Re: Make XP machine permanently boot into safe mode with networking

    Sorry about that post guys, that was wrong of me, wasn't patronising at all. Was having a row with someone in my family, apologies. I had looked into linux but it's in no way easy to set up a network bridge. It doesn't take too long, but it's just that, when you want to go on the xbox, I just want to switch it on and it work. what I think i'm going to do, is disable all un necessary stuff in boot from MSCONFIG then write a batch file to start them all up if i want to actually use the computer, may also buy 1gb RAM for it.

    Cheers, sorry.

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    Re: Make XP machine permanently boot into safe mode with networking

    I believe that you can fiddle with c:\boot.ini and change the 'default' to what you desire. I haven't investigated deeply, but know you can put more than one line in there, as I have BARTPE, and Recovery Console as options in mine. I don't plan on messing with it to find out, but it does allow for the options and they do work.
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    Re: Make XP machine permanently boot into safe mode with networking

    Have you considered selling the PC and using the procedes to buy another wireless router with ethernet ports (but without an ADSL modem) and use it as a wireless bridge to the router downstairs?

    These sort of things:
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Index.aspx?NT=1-0-49-295-0

    Basically doing what your PC is doing but without the need of running a full PC. You'd probably end up with a bit of cash in hand as well.
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    Re: Make XP machine permanently boot into safe mode with networking

    This works for win2k... probably work for XP... tom
    Sample Boot.ini File with "Safe Mode with Command Prompt" Switch

    [boot loader]
    timeout=30
    default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
    [operating systems]
    multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 Advanced Server" /fastdetect /SAFEBOOT:MINIMAL(ALTERNATESHELL)



    MORE INFORMATION
    The Safe-mode boot modes and corresponding switches include: • Mode: Safe Mode
    Switch: /safeboot:minimal /sos /bootlog /noguiboot
    • Mode: Safe Mode with Networking
    Switch: /safeboot:network /sos /bootlog /noguiboot
    • Mode: Safe Mode with Command Prompt
    Switch: /safeboot:minimal(alternateshell) /sos /bootlog /noguiboot
    • Mode: Enable Boot Logging
    Switch: /bootlog
    • Mode: Enable VGA Mode
    Switch: /basevideo
    • Mode: Directory Services Restore Mode (Domain Controllers Only)
    Switch: /safeboot:dsrepair /sos
    • Mode: Debugging Mode
    Switch: /debug

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    Re: Make XP machine permanently boot into safe mode with networking

    well how does the internet come upstairs? cant you just buy a router to recieve that internet connection or a network access point? think of planet earth

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