AMD to extend Ryzen 3000 CPU life cycle, according to report

[flearider]

5nm is out of the question for Zen3 (https://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/1432...irm-zen-3-7nm/). The question is which variety of 7nm it's using.

but thats before Huawei started having prob's with tsmc/usa gov ..so if tsmc have the space to do a full roll out of 5nm and amd have the time work it out .. what a way to hit intel being 2 nodes ahead.
and it will work in amd's favour more chiplets for a little extra costs untill it settles down and then it's win win ..

[KultiVator]

Seem to recall there was some conflicting news earlier this month, with some (leaked) AMD slides showing Zen 3 moving to the 5nm process. Could be a leak following AMD's 'behind closed doors' reassessment of market conditions.

We'll know for sure in time - but here's hoping AMD keep their foot on the peddle.

[mtyson]

UPDATE, 17th June:

"AMD confirms that the rumor on ‘Zen 3’ delay is inaccurate,” an AMD spokeswoman said in a statement Wednesday morning, wrote Gordon Mah Ung, Editor of PC World Magazine. Thus we should still expect to see Zen 3 consumer processors before the year is out.

[ik9000]

5nm is out of the question for Zen3 (https://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/1432...irm-zen-3-7nm/). The question is which variety of 7nm it's using.

and which version of pcie4 they go for. That old stuff of the new magic one that got recently announced

UPDATE, 17th June:

"AMD confirms that the rumor on ‘Zen 3’ delay is inaccurate,” an AMD spokeswoman said in a statement Wednesday morning, wrote Gordon Mah Ung, Editor of PC World Magazine. Thus we should still expect to see Zen 3 consumer processors before the year is out.

This is getting like the covid lockdown advice. Stay in, or don't. Go out, or don't. zen3 in 2021 or maybe not, don't meet, but do, but only in a bubble, or if there's a few of you stand 2 meters apart, or less, but eat bubblegum, but only behind a mask, just stay alert, but don't stay over, like we said stay in. But go outside. Exercise and stand in line, and protect lives. 5nm no, but maybe, but 7nm perhaps. But 2021. Stay inside. All clear?

[[GSV]Trig]

Seem to recall there was some conflicting news earlier this month, with some (leaked) AMD slides showing Zen 3 moving to the 5nm process. Could be a leak following AMD's 'behind closed doors' reassessment of market conditions.

We'll know for sure in time - but here's hoping AMD keep their foot on the peddle.

I cant see AMD going to 5nm yet, no point, its new and not really needed at this point..
I'd be more interested if Intel dropped to 5nm as they've been hanging into the double figures for a while, there must be some pretty good reason for this...

[Corky34]

It seem AMD have refuted DigiTimes claims..

AMD in an official briefing call with us confirmed that the company's "Zen 3" client processors are on-track for launch within 2020. This refutes rumors that "Zen 3" based Ryzen processors had been delayed to 2021 in favor of giving the upcoming Ryzen 3000XT reign over the rest of the year. The call was chaired by AMD's client-segment product managers who were speaking purely in context of their product segment, which is how we deduce that they were referring to "Vermeer" and not [just] "Milan." They were responding to speculation that "Zen 3" has been delayed to 2021, forcing AMD to refresh its existing IP.

In the call, AMD told us that the information about "Zen 3" launching in 2020 is not under embargo, and so here we are. An AMD spokesperson told us that "the rumor on Zen 3 delay is inaccurate." AMD recently also refuted rumors of "Zen 3" being based on 5 nm, by putting out microarchitecture roadmap slides on the occasion of a recent investor relations event, which reaffirmed "Zen 3" as a 7 nm-class microarchitecture.

Courtesy of TechPowerUp.

[kalniel]

It seem AMD have refuted DigiTimes claims..

Courtesy of TechPowerUp.

I linked to the Hexus article of the same thing in my post..

[Corky34]

Believe or not i checked if anyone had posted it yet, i think i missed it because i was focusing more on the release before the end of the year thing than the node size, the change to 5nm seemed the least likely of the DT claims so I'd already sort of dismissed that one.

[kalniel]

Believe or not i checked if anyone had posted it yet, i think i missed it because i was focusing more on the release before the end of the year thing than the node size, the change to 5nm seemed the least likely of the DT claims so I'd already sort of dismissed that one.

You're not alone. And despite the already far-fetched rumour, it seems several other people are still holding on to the 5nm idea. There's probably a behavioural name for it - where one thinks something is likely just because one hopes it's the case.

[ik9000]

You're not alone. And despite the already far-fetched rumour, it seems several other people are still holding on to the 5nm idea. There's probably a behavioural name for it - where one thinks something is likely just because one hopes it's the case.

I believe they were called leavers... Or Brexiteers.

[LSG501]

I believe they were called leavers... Or Brexiteers.

Pretty sure you mean remainers.... we're leaving (or left depending on viewpoint) the EU remember.

[kompukare]

You're not alone. And despite the already far-fetched rumour, it seems several other people are still holding on to the 5nm idea. There's probably a behavioural name for it - where one thinks something is likely just because one hopes [believes] it's the case.

I believe they were called leavers... Or Brexiteers.

Well, at the great risk of invoking whatever always happens on this forum when the 'B' word is mentioned...

...Shouldn't they be called true B-leavers?

[KultiVator]

[..] despite the already far-fetched rumour, it seems several other people are still holding on to the 5nm idea. There's probably a behavioural name for it - where one thinks something is likely just because one hopes it's the case.

Harsh - different people see different things in their news feeds, not all of which is factual (sadly). This whole article and discussion-thread is a case in point, based around rumours of an AMD delay that has since been refuted!

And what's wrong with a little optimism? The world could us some of that round about now.

[kalniel]

Harsh - different people see different things in their news feeds, not all of which is factual (sadly). This whole article and discussion-thread is a case in point, based around rumours of an AMD delay that has since been refuted!

And what's wrong with a little optimism? The world could us some of that round about now.

It wasn't meant to be harsh, apologies if that's how it came across. But I think it's genuinely a thing where people suspend their rationale assessment of likelihood when something they hope for is at stake - no-one would play the lottery otherwise!

At the same time there's no reason why 7nm Zen3 isn't also going to be pretty darn good - I don't think they need 5nm to deliver a good product at this point in the lifecycle.

[3dcandy]

It wasn't meant to be harsh, apologies if that's how it came across. But I think it's genuinely a thing where people suspend their rationale assessment of likelihood when something they hope for is at stake - no-one would play the lottery otherwise!

At the same time there's no reason why 7nm Zen3 isn't also going to be pretty darn good - I don't think they need 5nm to deliver a good product at this point in the lifecycle.

I also don't believe they need 5nm - but it's a rare thing that Intel are so behind that these rumours have actually had some traction...

[ik9000]

Pretty sure you mean remainers.... we're leaving (or left depending on viewpoint) the EU remember.

I was referring to the blind faith and foaming at the mouth zeal that such people still claim we will somehow 1) be independent and 2) better off as a result of leaving. Good luck with that.

Well, at the great risk of invoking whatever always happens on this forum when the 'B' word is mentioned...

...Shouldn't they be called true B-leavers?

Yes I thought you were having a pop at religion. Nice to have it confirmed.

I also don't believe they need 5nm - but it's a rare thing that Intel are so behind that these rumours have actually had some traction...

Yeah, it will be intriguing if Intel suddenly appear with 5nm. Something tells me they won't though!