Nvidia reveals the GeForce RTX 3070, 3080, 3090 graphics cards

[Moonister]

Just had a quick look at Ebay UK, quite a few new listings of 2080 Ti cards starting around the £400 mark(!). I can see the RTX 3070 flying off the shelves in Q4.

Good luck with buying 2080ti for £400. I just had a look and it's more like £600+ unless you're talking about bids in which case it's roll of a dice and luck. Every year is the same, ppl thinking that others will get desperate. For 25% fps gain it's hardly worth the hassle.

[Jonj1611]

Good luck with buying 2080ti for £400. I just had a look and it's more like £600+ unless you're talking about bids in which case it's roll of a dice and luck. Every year is the same, ppl thinking that others will get desperate. For 25% fps gain it's hardly worth the hassle.

They said starting at £400 not buy it nows

Think I will hold onto my 1080 for a while longer and see what the stock situation is like on the new Nvidias, I expect stock will be so low it will push prices up anyway.

[Moonister]

Good luck with buying 2080ti for £400. I just had a look and it's more like £600+ unless you're talking about bids in which case it's roll of a dice and luck. Every year is the same, ppl thinking that others will get desperate. For 25% fps gain it's hardly worth the hassle.

They said starting at £400 not buy it nows

Think I will hold onto my 1080 for a while longer and see what the stock situation is like on the new Nvidias, I expect stock will be so low it will push prices up anyway.

Yup, add £100 for limited stock and £100 for branded one to the above prices. £900 for MSI 3080 and £1,500 for MSI 3090thats my guess

[Xlucine]

The power doesn't seem that bad - 350W for the 3090, 320W for the 3080 and 220W for the 3070. Nvidia also recommend PSUs with two separate cables for the two 8 pin connectors, which isn't a bad shout. It's a bit worse than previous generations but modern coolers should handle it.

Mid range cards have tended to ~220 W for a while - it's 590/5700XT sort of level, so nothing too hot running. For the higher boards everyone's been overbuilding power supplies for decades so very few gaming systems won't be able to handle it (even 550W models should cope so long as you have a sensible CPU - it would probably work for a 10900k as modern name-brand PSUs tend to not mind short overcurrent bursts, but I wouldn't risk it).

The claimed performance is odd - the 3070 is meant to be 2080ti level, but does that with more cuda cores running substantially faster?

[ik9000]

The power doesn't seem that bad - 350W for the 3090, 320W for the 3080 and 220W for the 3070. Nvidia also recommend PSUs with two separate cables for the two 8 pin connectors, which isn't a bad shout. It's a bit worse than previous generations but modern coolers should handle it.

Mid range cards have tended to ~220 W for a while - it's 590/5700XT sort of level, so nothing too hot running. For the higher boards everyone's been overbuilding power supplies for decades so very few gaming systems won't be able to handle it (even 550W models should cope so long as you have a sensible CPU - it would probably work for a 10900k as modern name-brand PSUs tend to not mind short overcurrent bursts, but I wouldn't risk it).

The claimed performance is odd - the 3070 is meant to be 2080ti level, but does that with more cuda cores running substantially faster?

Nvidia's spec is 650W for 3070 combined with 10900k and 750W for 3080 and above on the same.

[kalniel]

The power doesn't seem that bad - 350W for the 3090, 320W for the 3080 and 220W for the 3070. Nvidia also recommend PSUs with two separate cables for the two 8 pin connectors, which isn't a bad shout. It's a bit worse than previous generations but modern coolers should handle it.

Mid range cards have tended to ~220 W for a while - it's 590/5700XT sort of level, so nothing too hot running. For the higher boards everyone's been overbuilding power supplies for decades so very few gaming systems won't be able to handle it (even 550W models should cope so long as you have a sensible CPU - it would probably work for a 10900k as modern name-brand PSUs tend to not mind short overcurrent bursts, but I wouldn't risk it).

Some of us haven't been overbuilding PSUs I have a nice 120W TGP 1060 currently do go with my hungry CPU. ~200W is kind of what I'm looking for max. Nvidia used to be efficiency kings, even on a less than cutting edge process - I was expecting better now they finally moved to a smaller node.. only we now know that was not such a good node.

The claimed performance is odd - the 3070 is meant to be 2080ti level, but does that with more cuda cores running substantially faster?

Cat linked an answer in Reddit on that one: https://forums.hexus.net/pc-hardware...ml#post4247380

The FP32 throughput is doubled when you aren't doing INT32 so Nvidia are counting that as double the cuda cores, but it's not actually double the cores so performance isn't the same as scaling previous gen.

[Xlucine]

Some of us haven't been overbuilding PSUs I have a nice 120W TGP 1060 currently do go with my hungry CPU. ~200W is kind of what I'm looking for max. Nvidia used to be efficiency kings, even on a less than cutting edge process - I was expecting better now they finally moved to a smaller node.. only we now know that was not such a good node.


Cat linked an answer in Reddit on that one: https://forums.hexus.net/pc-hardware...ml#post4247380

The FP32 throughput is doubled when you aren't doing INT32 so Nvidia are counting that as double the cuda cores, but it's not actually double the cores so performance isn't the same as scaling previous gen.

600W is overbuilt you'd have to OC a 9900k pretty hard to make a dent in the 250W change left with the 3090

[kalniel]

600W is overbuilt you'd have to OC a 9900k pretty hard to make a dent in the 250W change left with the 3090

TDP of the 9900k is 210W (PL2 - sustained turbo) but I think it's more like 170W usage in reality (https://www.anandtech.com/show/13400...600k-review/21). Add in motherboard, ram, four hard drives, blu-ray, peripheral cards (even my sound card needs a dedicated power cable from the PSU), and controllers and it creeps up (granted, I won't be using blu-ray at the same time as flight sim, but pretty much everything else will be used).

So a 350W GPU as well.. that's getting a bit tight 200W should put me around 70-80% load and hopefully still in the good efficiency range of the PSU.

[kalniel]

It seems like there are a bunch of extremely tenuous 'power when performance is limited to 60fps' type tests being done. This is akin to allowing the new cards to idle a lot and then say how much perf/watt has increased. I trust Hexus will not be swallowing the Nvidia bait in that respect?...

[Xlucine]

It seems like there are a bunch of extremely tenuous 'power when performance is limited to 60fps' type tests being done. This is akin to allowing the new cards to idle a lot and then say how much perf/watt has increased. I trust Hexus will not be swallowing the Nvidia bait in that respect?...

All hail radeon chill!

Power when limited to X fps is a reasonable use case, so long as you also report cost per frame

[kalniel]

Full specs of the 3070, 3080 and 3090 are in the Nvidia white paper if you can't wait for the reviews of the other two: https://www.nvidia.com/content/dam/e...tepaper-V1.pdf

Juicy info not on the geforce website include things like 96 ROPs for the 3070, and die size of 392.5mm^2. It's still not the full GA104 chip though, with a couple of SMs disabled. Memory is the same GDDR6 as last gen, only 14Gbps over 256-bit. So definitely room for a full fat, faster and more memory version to counter Navi...

[ik9000]

@Hexus, are you to confirm whether the RTX3000 series will get win7-64 bit driver support?

That isn't going to happen....

well unless you meant Hexus replying, it did happen. RTX3000 series get win7 drivers. First OCuk listed this:

then nvidia themselves promised it in their twitter Q&A and now the website is showing this:

Win7 can't use all the functionality where it is win10 dependent but it will otherwise run just fine.

[Shante]

The card hiding in the kitchen behind the spatula and I didn’t realize it
The prices on these FE are good but the released day was bad along with notification email being sent an hour later

[Xlucine]

Full specs of the 3070, 3080 and 3090 are in the Nvidia white paper if you can't wait for the reviews of the other two: https://www.nvidia.com/content/dam/e...tepaper-V1.pdf

Juicy info not on the geforce website include things like 96 ROPs for the 3070, and die size of 392.5mm^2. It's still not the full GA104 chip though, with a couple of SMs disabled. Memory is the same GDDR6 as last gen, only 14Gbps over 256-bit. So definitely room for a full fat, faster and more memory version to counter Navi...

The specs were also in the hexus 3080 review:
https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graph...ampere/?page=3

[kalniel]

The specs were also in the hexus 3080 review:
https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graph...ampere/?page=3

Hexus say 64 ROPs for the 3070.. wonder which is right? 64 sounds more accurate, so maybe Nvidia are trolling with the white paper.