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    Re: Steam survey reveals why Nvidia wants GTX 10 owners to upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    So the top cards are the 1060, 1050ti and 1050. With TDPs of 120W, 75W and 75W respectively.

    Exactly which of the 30xx series are 'safe' to upgrade to, given the wattages so far have been 350W, 320W and 220W?
    Interestingly enough the RX480/RX580/RX590 and RX470/RX570 marketshare total comes to just under 5% which is higher than I expected,especially as Polaris didn't do that well in laptops. The GTX1060 total is high because it includes the GTX1060 3GB/6GB and mobile versions which all have the same name.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aemelius View Post
    Personally I am looking at the 3070 to replace my 5700.
    Haven’t seen anything from AMD that makes me think it is worth waiting for the new cards.
    Currently running with a Ryzen 3600 and the Radeon 5700. Was hoping the red team would have something special to take nvidia down a peg like the Ryzen chips did Intel.
    Not an AMD Fanboy just someone that sees the value of viable competition over token.
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    Re: Steam survey reveals why Nvidia wants GTX 10 owners to upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoyoyo69 View Post
    I can see your point, but you should try and take a step back, see if you can see what Nvidua are (continually) doing.

    Rather than insulting others who raise valid points and defending Nvidia.

    They are STILL shifting the price brackets, each generation they've done this consecutively for generations now.
    Literally at no point did I actively defend nvidia. I couldn't give less of a toss about them as a company. Their entire worth to me is the products they make and the value I find in them.

    That being said, the 3000 series is looking to be a once in a..god, not even generation, like..several generations..leap. There hasn't been this sort of improvement from generation to generation in 15 years!

    But I've previously been extremely vocal in my downright hatred for nvidia and the crap they pulled with the 2000 series; making us pay for R&D and technology leaps not ready and not usable, bringing out a graphics card that has a 30% performance increase at a 50% price increase, vs the normal cadence of 20-30% performance for either the same price or 50 quid more. But then they come back with a literal doubling of performance, for prices that are LESS than the top end of the PREVIOUS generation ?! How can you not be excited for that?!

    They are ruining their previous gen card by releasing a new one that does the same performance for half the cost. They're releasing a card that straight up doubles the performance of the previous-previous (1080Ti) gen card, for most likely less (650 quid vs the 720 quid I paid for my 1080Ti). I'm sorry but this is exciting times.

    Who cares about shifting brackets, shifting names, whatever. All that matters is performance per dollar.

    But on that note, I am absolutely convinced that the only reason nvidia are bestowing us such lovelies is that they're afraid of what others are coming out with. So as lovely as the 3000 series is..I'ma wait on AMD.

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    Re: Steam survey reveals why Nvidia wants GTX 10 owners to upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    PSU isn't reported in any of those - if spywarez could work out PSU then it's very clever indeed, most PSUs don't report their capacity in any kind of software - they quite literally only give juice and no info
    They'll do it using the same methods by which I know you have a Seasonic 600W PSU, then...
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    Re: Steam survey reveals why Nvidia wants GTX 10 owners to upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by Tunnah View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Euphonium View Post
    I'm running a GTX980Ti. At 1080p60 it has handled everything I've needed it to with minimal quality tweaking. I tried multi-monitor gaming (I run 3x1080p & a 1280x1024) but found that while it ran smoothly enough, it was more hassle than it was worth.

    In general I assume that it's not worth upgrading more often than every third generation unless something truly revolutionary comes along. The only revolution I've seen in recent years has been nVidia's pricing :-(

    I'm going to wait until I've seen 3rd party benchmarks for both the 30-series and whatever AMD comes out with before I consider upgrading. TBH I'd question the wisdom of anyone who buys one of these cards in a hurry.

    Or I might hold off another year and put the last of this year's money towards a 1440p monitor instead.
    Something seems real off there, as I had a 1060 before moving to 4K, and it made mincemeat of 1080p. 980Ti is a 1440p, >60hz capable card.
    Sounds like maybe I was unclear about something.

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    Re: Steam survey reveals why Nvidia wants GTX 10 owners to upgrade

    Not looking to replace my current Ryzen 3600 anytime soon as it more than meets my needs.
    The 5700 struggles with VR titles more than I like and I have been waiting for the new cards from AMD and Nvidia for months. (It feels much longer - I blame COVID, or the government... actually both)
    The 3070 seems like a good fit and is available for pre-order in October but I am happy (willing may be a better term) to wait until after the 28th to see what AMD has to offer.
    Hopefully the actual cards will be available not too long afterwards. ( I hate paper launches )
    Ideally I want the new card before the end of November, before the wife starts spending for Xmas!
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    Re: Steam survey reveals why Nvidia wants GTX 10 owners to upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by Tunnah View Post
    But on that note, I am absolutely convinced that the only reason nvidia are bestowing us such lovelies is that they're afraid of what others are coming out with. So as lovely as the 3000 series is..I'ma wait on AMD.
    I think you're right they're worried about the competition, but I don't think it's primarily AMD (directly anyway,) they're trying to head off. It's Sony and Microsoft. Their new consoles are price competitive with a high end GPU (never mind the rest of the system around it,) so they need something that offers greater performance, for a similar price (hence the effective price drops over 2000 series,) and on the market before the consoles are.

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    Re: Steam survey reveals why Nvidia wants GTX 10 owners to upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    They'll do it using the same methods by which I know you have a Seasonic 600W PSU, then...
    Jensen reads these forums?! Yay! Mr Huang Sir can you drop the price of your inevitable 3070 16GB variant to £200! Thanks!!1One!

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    Re: Steam survey reveals why Nvidia wants GTX 10 owners to upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Jensen reads these forums?! Yay! Mr Huang Sir can you drop the price of your inevitable 3070 16GB variant to £200! Thanks!!1One!
    I doubt he does... But I bet you there are people (direct employees or an external data harvesting service) employed to read them, and compile all the data from around the web on what people say they have, compared with all available sales figures, who then tell Jen Sen what the most common PSUs are.
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    Re: Steam survey reveals why Nvidia wants GTX 10 owners to upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by [GSV
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    I'm looking at a 3xxx card (or Navi depending on where they sit price/performance/spec) and a new monitor, not because I want to go over 1920x1080, but because I want a higher refresh rate..
    And there you go, for many upgraders, it's going to be GPU + probably at the very least one other piece of not so cheap hardware. You must have the CPU and PSU to cope but many others with 1060s, 1050s, 4 cores, and etc, won't

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    Re: Steam survey reveals why Nvidia wants GTX 10 owners to upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    I doubt he does... But I bet you there are people (direct employees or an external data harvesting service) employed to read them, and compile all the data from around the web on what people say they have, compared with all available sales figures, who then tell Jen Sen what the most common PSUs are.
    Nah, just not enough info or users in forums for that to be meaningful. Better to strike up partnership with a retailer and just pay them for distribution figures. Or pay a survey firm to conduct research via sampling questionnaires.

    Maybe Hexus can ask Scan for the same, so we can get a guestimate of what the median PSU was like back when the 1060/1050ti/1050 cards were selling.

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    Re: Steam survey reveals why Nvidia wants GTX 10 owners to upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryhl View Post
    And there you go, for many upgraders, it's going to be GPU + probably at the very least one other piece of not so cheap hardware. You must have the CPU and PSU to cope but many others with 1060s, 1050s, 4 cores, and etc, won't
    I knew this year was going to be a good one on many levels, hence still running my old card but upgrading a lot of the other stuff in my machine to bring me up to AM4 and having B450 and X570 motherboards I can use depending on where CPU/APU's end up and which route I end up going down..

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    Re: Steam survey reveals why Nvidia wants GTX 10 owners to upgrade

    why Nvidia wants GTX 10 owners to upgrade
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