Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 stock levels are non-existent

[kompukare]

Realistically, and from your elevated position, do you think that we'll see a lot more supply once NVidia can get some space in with TSMC, perhaps NVidia are keeping things in short supply, either waiting for Samsung to hit better yields, or for space to become available elsewhere, at which point we get Ti/Super level cards made on someone else's process and the whole Samsung thing gets brushed under the rug..?

Pretty sure Samsung's 8nm has nothing in common with TSMC's 7nm, so it have to be a major redesign.
So unless Nvidia stared the porting process at least a year ago and taped-out months ago, I find it very unlike they will move GA102/GA104/GA106 to TSMC.
Now, they may have realized that Samsung's 8nm was cheap for a reason over a year ago and decided that for mobile GA106 had to be TSMC, but then they are now at the back of the queue for TSMC although a few less GA100 wafers should theoretically produce lots of GA106 parts.
For what comes after Ampere (Hopper?), maybe they will go with TSMC even if JHH likes to moan about cost per transistor all the time.

[dannyboy75]

But it's not like they are driven by customer demand - they are driven by the fact that the yields are pathetic and they can't make enough...

....to meet customer demand

[3dcandy]

....to meet customer demand

See other people saying they are holding cards back...
That IS NOT meeting customer demand, it hikes up the prices and just annoys people. So they cannot meet customer demand because the yields are crap and they didn't estimate that pricing the cards so low would result in many many people ordering them.
Oh and if we were in the US then there is far more cards available but still not enough to go round

[DougieDJ]

I managed to secure a Strix OC via CCL. It was priced at £639.99 and included a year's free membership of GeForce Now.

Priority DPD at £8.99 meant I received it yesterday.

[kompukare]

I managed to secure a Strix OC via CCL. It was priced at £639.99 and included a year's free membership of GeForce Now.

Priority DPD at £8.99 meant I received it yesterday.

That's a slightly more than Nvidia's supposed RRP of $499 for the F's Edition 3070 card.
It's almost like those F's Edition card's price is near fiction and the only like to release them to look good in reviewers conclusions and price/performance charts.
Strangely enough, lots of people are already calling the 6800's announced price of $579 too high to compete with 3070's $499 despite the shown 10-15% extra speed and double the memory (8GB was mid low-end at $239 back in 2016 when the Radeon 480 launched).
Maybe AMD should release a 8GB 6800 card at $499 and call it the built-in obsolescence version.
If that's the case, the 3090 at over double the 3080's price and under 15% extra speed, is far worse. But then again, a lot of vocal protests about AMD's prices seem to be from those who only ever by green but would like AMD to force Nvidia to reduce prices.

[Shaz2sxy]

I managed to get the founders edition via scan.
Took 38 mins to go through checkout. But eventually worked. Getting delivery in the next couple of hours aswell

[Joe91]

Nvidia's current entire Ampere line-up - 3070/80/90 - has literally been obliterated by RDNA2. Their replacements are, of course, being hurriedly worked on, however, where on earth are the super and Ti versions going to sit? - with the extra memory they'll need to compete, they're going to cost more! At the same time, AMD are prepping the 6700 and lower cards to finish off that end of the stack.
Not looking good for Ampere.

[Syphadeus]

But it's not like they are driven by customer demand - they are driven by the fact that the yields are pathetic and they can't make enough...

....to meet customer demand

Yes, like the NAND and flash memory collusion you mean? Where production was intentionally low in order to artificially constrain supply, thus inflating ASP due to demand not being met.

I’m not accusing Nvidia of this at present, because they would actually have just made more money if they could sell through more of them. But let’s not kid ourselves. Good product or not, Nvidia are not known for being a squeaky clean operation. This time they’ve done over the AIBs. It would not be out of character for them to have had a hand in this supply constraint.

It’s not clever and it’s bad business. In a competitive market, which hopefully GPU is going to be again soon, the consumer only wins if it’s the quality of the product that determines demand and price. Not scarcity due to poor supply, artificial or otherwise

[T1nt1n]

Good old vapourware, you've got more chance of snagging Bandersnatch for the ZX Spectrum.

[Avernus]

I placed an order for an EVGA gaming 3070 (08G-P5-3753-KR) with scan on the 29th, luckily I’ve ended up first on the que for this model. As I write this I’m still waiting for it after paying for it. It’s been a month with no info on this model which seems to have even disappeared from the evga website. Scan have received plenty of other models across all ranges but not this one I’m curious as to what’s happened and have evga already stopped producing it before shipping pre orders out.

[towell]

It looks like we're seeing weekly restocks of the 3070 FE on Scan now, and they stay in stock for a solid 10-20 minutes. There's light at the end of the tunnel.

[JamesP91]

It looks like we're seeing weekly restocks of the 3070 FE on Scan now, and they stay in stock for a solid 10-20 minutes. There's light at the end of the tunnel.

Does the website actually stay stable enough to allow someone to order within that time?

[towell]

Does the website actually stay stable enough to allow someone to order within that time?

I mean I got a 3080 FE at the drop a couple weeks ago, my 15s refresh Distill monitor notified me. I was planning to buy a 3070 but they were still showing as OOS so I ordered a 3080. The site was fine through the whole process but they did sell out within 1-2 mins. Sure enough 3070s came in stock right after I checked out, and I kept checking the page for the next 30 mins or so with no signs of crashing and 3070s were in stock the whole time.