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    Quote Originally Posted by Apex
    Thats why for the run outside you use stp cable and not utp cable

    stp being sheilded twiested pair and utp being unshielded twiested pair.

    That's got nothing to do with it. STP is shielding from electromagnetic interference. Furthermore it only works if your NICs and Switches are wired to support it.

    The reason you shouldn't use the cabling outside is because it won't weather too well. Still, I'd probably do it... it's cheap enough to replace.
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    you could always get a lengh of hosepipe to put it through, that should keep most of the weather out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kez
    That's got nothing to do with it. STP is shielding from electromagnetic interference. Furthermore it only works if your NICs and Switches are wired to support it.

    The reason you shouldn't use the cabling outside is because it won't weather too well. Still, I'd probably do it... it's cheap enough to replace.
    Excuse me......errr wired to support it...bollox m8.

    stp cable tends to have a more hardwareing cover then utp (well the stuff i used has)

    The only difference in stp to utp is that the twisted pairs are shielded in stp...in all other respects it's the same.



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    Excuse me......errr wired to support it...bollox m8.

    stp cable tends to have a more hardwareing cover then utp (well the stuff i used has)

    The only difference in stp to utp is that the twisted pairs are shielded in stp...in all other respects it's the same.
    Well thats what i was thinking...its just got tin foil stuff in it.
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    Doesnt the shielding need to be grounded? like with coax. Also the reason might have been something to do with lightning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumagoro
    Doesnt the shielding need to be grounded?
    That's what I was edging at with hardware support - something we discovered doing our networking module at college... perhaps times have changed.

    It may be that STP as a rule, has stronger external insulation, in which case... go for it!
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    Put cat 5 in your house and get a 1meg ADSL line fur www.cpbb.co.uk its the only way to go - wireless only causes nightmares especially if you are inexpierenced, and cable internet costs alot for equivalent adsl and as javalord says will suck if its a student area.

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    heh, ive got 60m or so of utp running round the outside of my house, works great ;p
    er, if your northbridge fan is humming loudly, disconnect it. _dont_ kick the side of the case, it _will_ break it.
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    Well wow i turn my back for one minute and then come back to find all this! Thx u lot....so far im kinda feeling that ntl is the way to go...some student offer which is 750k for £20 a month, with no line rental....and supposedly a 9 month contract instead of 12...but theres a story to that...we rang up this ntl sales man...and he popped down...this guy looked like something out a dodgey essex 2nd hand car sales room...and said that 9month part of the "student offer" had been pulled by some big exec who was worried about stock in 9 months time when all these student left so this guy offered us the 12 month contract but with a work around to get 9 months...

    option a) set up a fake debit account and then stop paying after 9 months or some bs and then cancel debit account.....im not so keen on bank fraud so i gently shrugged off this muppet worthy suggestion.

    option b) come the 8th month send a letter to ntl saying we're moving to a non-cabled area like Scarborough or the Lake District where they coulnd't move the connection to...so the contract would be cancelled.....but then again isn't a 12 month contract a 12 month contract no matter what...wouldn't i need to show proof i was moving?

    We gently ushered him out the door with nervous smiles and all ran off to cleanse ourselves with cold showers to get the filth off.....(not all at the same time obviously)

    So atm Purple's suggestion is looking very tempting but doesn't that mean we have to pay bt line rental on top?

    As for the WiFi vs Cable thing im still not sure whats best since you lot ain't sure whats best.......keep debating

    As always all help appreciated and thx for feedbk all we need now is hardware suggestions


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    for adsl you need a bt line and yes line rental on top !



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    come on, line rental is cheap - you can get a 1 meg line for 25.99 or a 512 line for 18.99 from www.cpbb.co.uk + £10 for line rental - between 5 of you is less than 6 quid a month each or 20p a day. 20p. A cheaper cable option would be 18p but would cost more for your mobile phone calls to their customer support probably £5 a day . And the best bit about ADSL is, minimum 3 month contract, perfect!

    Cable the damn house as well
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    NTL + wired gets my vote.

    You will need a decent server with bandwidth shaping with 5students d/loading.

    Dont forget you will want to share other things but the internet over the network and wireless is a pain for file transfers (dead slow)

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    you should really set up a single computer in a neutral room (like the sitting room) as a server that can be shared on your network and only use your file sharing program on that computer, otherwise you are just gonna clog your connection with UPLOADS also if one of you wants to play multiplayer games online it is easier to limit one single file sharing program than waking up your hungover or otherwise mates in their room.

    also that server PC could have a TV out card in attached to your student loan purchased 32" TV for showing those cough.. digitally archived shows.

    Trust me it will work better with a server.
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    You can get money to network your house...?

    Tres interesting.

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    oh oh frosty i've been beavering away making that "Andrew's all conqering and propaganda way of networking guide" it'll be ready in a couple 'o days or so, still got some research to do...

    btw i got myself a logitech mx500 mouse for £22 from ebuyer and im getting myself a tv in card sometime next week.

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    well howdy there partner is the fro coming along steadily....btw i can't get into my hotmail account at the uni bcos an error comes up , could you send it to my yahoo 1!!! thx fella

    adam_15_uk@hotmail.com

    Ps: after the fishing trip the second fish died so the rest were useless sadly i am doomed-less .... you know what i mean


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