So my boradband has been going at near-56k speeds lately

[Marcos]

UK Online are offering a 2mb line, free setup and free modem, unlimited use for £29.99 a month. I'm signing up as soon as Tiscali clear my line!

Sounds AWESOME, i need a free setup jobbie with no contract.....oh wait....thats a contract isnt it?

[Beach]

It is, yes, what do you want? blood?

Pipex offer free set up on all their products with no contract. The catch is if you do cancel within 12 months, there's a £60 charge. In that respect they're no different to ZEN except ZEN charge the fee upfront.

If they don't get you coming, they'll get you going.

[jimborae]

I'm having a lot of problems with UK Online & their 8mb service at present & so are alot of others. Mine consistently only runs between 1.5 & 2.5 mb and BT & Uk Online are blaming each other. Wish I'd never left ntl now so just a word of warning.

[Marcos]

It is, yes, what do you want? blood?

Pipex offer free set up on all their products with no contract. The catch is if you do cancel within 12 months, there's a £60 charge. In that respect they're no different to ZEN except ZEN charge the fee upfront.

If they don't get you coming, they'll get you going.

Hmmm, I suppose those are pretty equal then, and i think Zen only charge £50

[Beach]

I'm having a lot of problems with UK Online & their 8mb service at present & so are alot of others. Mine consistently only runs between 1.5 & 2.5 mb and BT & Uk Online are blaming each other. Wish I'd never left ntl now so just a word of warning.

Thanks for that, I might steer clear then.

And it must be bad if you wish you were still with ntl!

[jimborae]

Thanks for that, I might steer clear then.

And it must be bad if you wish you were still with ntl!

Despite Ntl's appalling customer service the connection itself was always good, never dropped, never slowed down. I was just greedy & wanted to try 8mb adsl.

[RVF500]

The problem with higher rates of ADSL is the distance from the exchange. The more cable the more attenutation, which ADSL is susceptible to. NTL on the other hand run to local areas over optical fibre. Then the signal is transmitted freshly as it transfers from optical to copper. Many moons ago when I worked for Nynex (one of the forerunners of NTL) the longest copper run was only about 800 metres. A snip for ADSL and probably one of the reasons that NTL's speed is so constant. Thing is, with that kind of infrastructure I'm surprised NTL isn't offering an 8 Mbit service.

[Beach]

Hmmm, I suppose those are pretty equal then, and i think Zen only charge £50

Don't forget that ZEN like quote prices exclusive of VAT. It'll be £58.75 when you add the VAT on.

[Marcos]

Don't forget that ZEN like quote prices exclusive of VAT. It'll be £58.75 when you add the VAT on.

Good point