I just toasted a Athlon x2 5000 Black edition

[masscrazy]

daniel.phillips I know I broke it so I can not send it back it does not seem right.

Thas very noble of ya.

[BUFF]

had you updated your BIOS?
Brisbane's read high on most boards until you install a Brisbane supporting BIOS.

[teachmech]

Buff: I had been using it with some akasa silver compound giving temp of high 40 at 3.1 Gb and thought I'd give the mx2 a go to try and hit 3.2 Gb stable but no chance now.

Just to update you all a freezer 64 does make excellent contact with a bare chip as the a base sits on the chip and the cooler does not rest on the frame. However my chip was dead!

[Rob_B]

but did you kill it? Nothing you describe would make me have thought I'd have done something wrong? Too late now though of course!!

[teachmech]

Must have been me whether some of the "sliver" compound short out some pins who knows the chip is dead and bare back. I think I will drill a hole in the IHS and use it as a key chain just to remind myself not to tweak when everything works.

There agian I have always enjoyed taking things apart to find out how they work. Just goes to show you are never to old to do something stupid.

[staffsMike]

Wouldn't worry about doing something stupid.

My first build, I screwed the mobo directly onto the removeable mobo tray and blew the graphics up

The only cpu I have ever had die is old celeron at work. It had manged to essentially melt and fuse the HSF to it lol

[Uriel]

£80??!?!??? Is that all? for a 5000?

dammit. I gotta upgrade. s939 is killing me.

That's for the black edition (multiplier unlocked - usually gets to around 3GHX @ stock volts). The regular 5000+ is only about £70.

939 CPUs are seriously overpriced. Given the amound I've seen them going for on ebay, I'm seriously wondering if I can manage a 'free' upgrade with the ASROCK AM2CPU riser board. Anything above a 939 X2 4400+ is just fetching silly money.

[teachmech]

Just another update

I had a think about what some of you had said and had a good look at the cpu.
I find 2 bent pins so a carefully straightened them. Now what are the chances an bare back 5000BE will still run.

Well at this moment in time its at 3 Gig @ 1.35 volts running dual prime 95 at 45 degrees.

I'll give it a few hours and see what happens.

So with a removed IHS the freezer 64 sits straight on the cpu die to keep it stable I cut a hole in the black sponge that comes in the bottom of the box and placed over the chip.

So far so good.


I'll post again in a couple of hours and let you know how its going.

[Agent]

As soon as I saw this something wasn't adding up

I took a XP-90 off a overclocked 3000+ Venice while it was running prime to prove a point - AMD's don't simply burn up any more like the old cores. I couldn't see why an AM2 would.
Granted, it crashed, but no matter how much I tried I couldn't kill the chip.

[KiMi-Tech]

I did something similar to my old Athlon. Changed the paste from some old coolermaster stuff and it simply never booted again.
Never bothered to figure out why as it was so old.

[oralpain]

Well at this moment in time its at 3 Gig @ 1.35 volts running dual prime 95 at 45 degrees.

Nice.

Atleast removing the heatspreader wasn't a loss.

I generally used any lapped heatsink that fit the stock bracket. I modded the mounting bracket itself by sanding the feet down to about 1.5mm in height, to compensate for the thickness of the absent IHS. Most heatsinks that bolt directly to the board should work without modification, though soem are so heavy I would fear to use them on a bare die.

As soon as I saw this something wasn't adding up

I took a XP-90 off a overclocked 3000+ Venice while it was running prime to prove a point - AMD's don't simply burn up any more like the old cores. I couldn't see why an AM2 would.
Granted, it crashed, but no matter how much I tried I couldn't kill the chip.

Yeah, this is what reinforced the idea that the op had presented about tim under the IHS, at least in my mind.

I've accidentally turned on bare die A64s with no HS at all, and they automatically shut off before being damaged.

[amjedm]

Well at this moment in time its at 3 Gig @ 1.35 volts running dual prime 95 at 45 degrees.

Good to hear it's working again

Dumb question (), is the Freezer mounted to the socket or just sitting on top of the chip (motherboard on a table etc)?

[teachmech]

amjedm: The freezer pro still clips to the socket as normal and rests directly on the core the lock was not as difficult as normal so there is less pressure than when pressing on to the IHS, but its all working.

Next is to try and reach 3.2 G.

[Max Tractor]

I doubt it is making good contact, or as soon as you mount the board back in the case and upright it, then you could run into problems. You need to fill the gap, as already, the removed ihs can be put in between the retention clip ABOVE, have a look here

S939 A64 IHS Removal - Page 10 - Overclockers UK Forums

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[teachmech]

Max Tractor: The board is already mounted in the case and running daul prime 95 stable for 12 hours at 3 Gig @1.35 volts with a max temp of 45 degrees.