Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 16 of 32

Thread: CPU Cooling - Thermalright True Black

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Ipswich
    Posts
    236
    Thanks
    7
    Thanked
    10 times in 7 posts
    • Aden's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Biostar TP45 HP
      • CPU:
      • Q6600 @ stock
      • Memory:
      • 2 x 2gb Corsair XMS2 800mhz
      • Storage:
      • 2 x 500gb 7200.11
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 8600GTS @ Stock
      • PSU:
      • be-quiet 550watt
      • Case:
      • Antec 900
      • Operating System:
      • XP Media Center & Seven x64 7232
      • Monitor(s):
      • 24" acer @ 1920 x 1200 & 15" 1024 x 768
      • Internet:
      • Supanet supposed 8mb - 1.3mb

    CPU Cooling - Thermalright True Black

    I'm almost certain that the Thermalright True Black is the cooler for me (in my Antec 900 build) on the Q6600 / Q6700 i suspect. The thing i'm wondering is if i'll see any benefit with the Push & Pull 2-fan setup that some use with it.

    I'm wondering whether Push & Pull will:
    -Increase Airflow, inturn letting me put both fans on lets say 'low' rather than a single fan on 'medium'.
    -If Push & Pull actually works like it should (anyone with any experience)
    -Work better with two identical fans or two different fans.

    Now here's what I was wondering mainly:

    Identical Fans
    Whether two identical fans (therefore the same CFM) will work better, due to the same amount of air being pulled in and pushed out.

    Different Fans (or different CFM)
    If i have two different fans, or just different CFM on the fans (due to different rpm) would this affect the performance of Push & Pull. Heres the two things i thought..

    If a strong fan is pushing air in and a weaker fan is "pulling" it out.. would it be inefficient? Having the whole resistence of a slower / lower CFM and all.. or would it still perform better than the single strong fan on its own?

    If the weak fan is 'pushing' the air in.. and the strong one 'pulling' it out, would this just be defeating the object of the weaker fan, as the stronger one would surely be pulling additional air through the weaker one aswell as what its supplying.

    Basically, i'm wondering what setup is best:
    -2 Identical Fans with same CFM
    -Strong Fan pushing air in, weak fan pulling it out..
    -Weak fan pushing air in, Strong one pulling it out.

    Finally, on a seperate note, I'm expecting the True Black to fit in my Antec 900.. i'm not using the side panel fan. It should be ok right?

    Thanks for your help

  2. #2
    Welcome to stampytown! Salazaar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Oxford
    Posts
    4,431
    Thanks
    505
    Thanked
    350 times in 251 posts

    Re: CPU Cooling - Thermalright True Black

    I don't think you'll notice any actual difference at all. The TRUE is an excellent cooler with only one fan, you won't be able to improve on that significantly by adding an extra fan!
    ____
    (='.'=)
    (")_(")

  3. #3
    I'm ITX
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Liverpool
    Posts
    2,415
    Thanks
    82
    Thanked
    159 times in 148 posts

    Re: CPU Cooling - Thermalright True Black

    Quote Originally Posted by Salazaar View Post
    I don't think you'll notice any actual difference at all. The TRUE is an excellent cooler with only one fan, you won't be able to improve on that significantly by adding an extra fan!
    This is true (no pun intended lolololbbq!)

    I know that you can drop temperatures on a true by using push pull 38mm fans, but that's ridiculously loud...

    It's 4.98*

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    1,094
    Thanks
    11
    Thanked
    77 times in 75 posts
    • LuckyNV's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI GD65
      • CPU:
      • i5 750 w/ Thermalright Ultra120X
      • Memory:
      • 2x2GB DDR3-1600 Cas7
      • Storage:
      • 640GB.AAKS, 2xSamsung F1 1TB, 2xSamsung 64GB SLC SSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire HD6870 1GB
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX620W
      • Case:
      • Coolermaster HAF-932
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Pro 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • LG W2286L
      • Internet:
      • Be* Unlimited@21Mbps w/ Draytek 2710n

    Re: CPU Cooling - Thermalright True Black

    extra fan of the same helps temps by 2-3C at most on prime load, not really that much

  5. #5
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Carlisle
    Posts
    4,121
    Thanks
    504
    Thanked
    368 times in 278 posts
    • matty-hodgson's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Abit IP35 Dark Raider
      • CPU:
      • Q6600 @ 4GHz (59'C Under a TRUE Black)
      • Memory:
      • 4GB OCZ DDR2 890MHz (5-4-4-15)
      • Storage:
      • Intel 80GB - Games. Intel 80GB - OS. 1TB Samsung - Storage.
      • Graphics card(s):
      • NVIDIA Zotac GTX 275: 728 Core, 1614 Shader, 1340 Memory
      • PSU:
      • Enermax MODU82+ 625w
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Samsung SM2343BW (2048x1152)
      • Internet:
      • Smallworld 4Mbps

    Re: CPU Cooling - Thermalright True Black

    hasn't TAKTAK done this to his TRUE?
    PM him?

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Ipswich
    Posts
    236
    Thanks
    7
    Thanked
    10 times in 7 posts
    • Aden's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Biostar TP45 HP
      • CPU:
      • Q6600 @ stock
      • Memory:
      • 2 x 2gb Corsair XMS2 800mhz
      • Storage:
      • 2 x 500gb 7200.11
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 8600GTS @ Stock
      • PSU:
      • be-quiet 550watt
      • Case:
      • Antec 900
      • Operating System:
      • XP Media Center & Seven x64 7232
      • Monitor(s):
      • 24" acer @ 1920 x 1200 & 15" 1024 x 768
      • Internet:
      • Supanet supposed 8mb - 1.3mb

    Re: CPU Cooling - Thermalright True Black

    Quote Originally Posted by matty-hodgson View Post
    hasn't TAKTAK done this to his TRUE?
    PM him?
    Heh, i would.. but I'm new here and don't want to hassle peoples

  7. #7
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Carlisle
    Posts
    4,121
    Thanks
    504
    Thanked
    368 times in 278 posts
    • matty-hodgson's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Abit IP35 Dark Raider
      • CPU:
      • Q6600 @ 4GHz (59'C Under a TRUE Black)
      • Memory:
      • 4GB OCZ DDR2 890MHz (5-4-4-15)
      • Storage:
      • Intel 80GB - Games. Intel 80GB - OS. 1TB Samsung - Storage.
      • Graphics card(s):
      • NVIDIA Zotac GTX 275: 728 Core, 1614 Shader, 1340 Memory
      • PSU:
      • Enermax MODU82+ 625w
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Samsung SM2343BW (2048x1152)
      • Internet:
      • Smallworld 4Mbps

    Re: CPU Cooling - Thermalright True Black

    Quote Originally Posted by Aden View Post
    Heh, i would.. but I'm new here and don't want to hassle peoples
    i'll see if i can point him towards this thread then.. he's usually more than happy to help out people

  8. #8
    I R Toff Pandi! TAKTAK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Vergon6
    Posts
    7,410
    Thanks
    525
    Thanked
    995 times in 735 posts
    • TAKTAK's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI P55 GD65
      • CPU:
      • i7 860 @ 3.62GHz under an XSPC RASA
      • Memory:
      • 8GB 2133MHZ Corsair Vengeance
      • Storage:
      • 80GB Intel G2 SSD + 500GB + 640GB + 250GB WD AAKs + 2x1TB Samsung (1 Dead) + 500GB Maxtor
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA SSC GTX260 216 55nm under an EK FC260 GTX
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX620w
      • Case:
      • Corsair 800D, PA120.3 in the roof with 6 NF-P12s in Push-Pull
      • Operating System:
      • 7 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • 24" Yuraku YV24WBH1 - SA-LTM240M2-L01 Panel & 32" LCD HDTV (1080i) Digihome tesco special :D
      • Internet:
      • 76Mb Fibre

    Re: CPU Cooling - Thermalright True Black

    And as per a Matty special request, i have arrived..

    For you with the Antec 900 you won't notice much difference by using 2 fans as opposed to one, as there is plenty of room for the air to be dispersed.

    Now in my case (no pun intended ), my lil' Lian Li A05 has, TBH, quite limited airflow, even with the blowhole mod, so anything that can help the airflow to be laminar through the cooler and spend as little time inside the case is a big bonus.

    Also, the 2 fans help to disperse more air from the PWM and MOSFET coolers, as there is essentially, more active airflow going over them as they are on both sides of the cooler.

    Basically, using 2 fans doesn't put much more air through... it just means that the air is kept laminar and therefore the heat spends less time in contact with components before it is exhausted.

    So in essence, what i am saying is, if you have decent room in your case, then there is no requirement for dual fans in push-pull.
    For cases with more impeded airflow, it can help to keep things running smoothly.

    One thing you shouldn't do is put 2 different fans on it... Otherwise the fans will end up battling against each other and cause more heat, i run both of my fans off a fan splitter cable, and use high quality fans, so that:

    A: both fans spin at the same speed
    B: it is nice and quiet
    C: see B

    So unless your going for the top O/C then 1 fan is fine, and cheaper

    edit: review including single and dual fan setups with a TRUE http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coo...ra120ex_5.html
    Last edited by TAKTAK; 29-12-2008 at 08:05 PM.
    Post Counts and Other Rewards, Rules, Folding@Home, Fans: Push vs Pull vs Push-Pull, Corsair PSU OEMs.

    Quote Originally Posted by razer121 View Post
    Would you like me to enter you? it would be my pleasure
    TAKTAK.co.uk

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Ipswich
    Posts
    236
    Thanks
    7
    Thanked
    10 times in 7 posts
    • Aden's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Biostar TP45 HP
      • CPU:
      • Q6600 @ stock
      • Memory:
      • 2 x 2gb Corsair XMS2 800mhz
      • Storage:
      • 2 x 500gb 7200.11
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 8600GTS @ Stock
      • PSU:
      • be-quiet 550watt
      • Case:
      • Antec 900
      • Operating System:
      • XP Media Center & Seven x64 7232
      • Monitor(s):
      • 24" acer @ 1920 x 1200 & 15" 1024 x 768
      • Internet:
      • Supanet supposed 8mb - 1.3mb

    Re: CPU Cooling - Thermalright True Black

    Quote Originally Posted by TAKTAK View Post
    And as per a Matty special request, i have arrived..

    For you with the Antec 900 you won't notice much difference by using 2 fans as opposed to one, as there is plenty of room for the air to be dispersed.

    Now in my case (no pun intended ), my lil' Lian Li A05 has, TBH, quite limited airflow, even with the blowhole mod, so anything that can help the airflow to be laminar through the cooler and spend as little time inside the case is a big bonus.

    Also, the 2 fans help to disperse more air from the PWM and MOSFET coolers, as there is essentially, more active airflow going over them as they are on both sides of the cooler.

    Basically, using 2 fans doesn't put much more air through... it just means that the air is kept laminar and therefore the heat spends less time in contact with components before it is exhausted.

    So in essence, what i am saying is, if you have decent room in your case, then there is no requirement for dual fans in push-pull.
    For cases with more impeded airflow, it can help to keep things running smoothly.

    One thing you shouldn't do is put 2 different fans on it... Otherwise the fans will end up battling against each other and cause more heat, i run both of my fans off a fan splitter cable, and use high quality fans, so that:

    A: both fans spin at the same speed
    B: it is nice and quiet
    C: see B

    So unless your going for the top O/C then 1 fan is fine, and cheaper
    Ok, thanks for that.. what i reckon I will do is setup with a single fan (once i've purchased of course ) and stress the system to get a temperature and then stick a second identical fan in and do the same test again.. that way I'll know which is running better etc, but also will be able to help others with the question (if there will be any.. thats another question) as I had.

    Thanks for the response

  10. #10
    I R Toff Pandi! TAKTAK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Vergon6
    Posts
    7,410
    Thanks
    525
    Thanked
    995 times in 735 posts
    • TAKTAK's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI P55 GD65
      • CPU:
      • i7 860 @ 3.62GHz under an XSPC RASA
      • Memory:
      • 8GB 2133MHZ Corsair Vengeance
      • Storage:
      • 80GB Intel G2 SSD + 500GB + 640GB + 250GB WD AAKs + 2x1TB Samsung (1 Dead) + 500GB Maxtor
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA SSC GTX260 216 55nm under an EK FC260 GTX
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX620w
      • Case:
      • Corsair 800D, PA120.3 in the roof with 6 NF-P12s in Push-Pull
      • Operating System:
      • 7 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • 24" Yuraku YV24WBH1 - SA-LTM240M2-L01 Panel & 32" LCD HDTV (1080i) Digihome tesco special :D
      • Internet:
      • 76Mb Fibre

    Re: CPU Cooling - Thermalright True Black

    Quote Originally Posted by Aden View Post
    Ok, thanks for that.. what i reckon I will do is setup with a single fan (once i've purchased of course ) and stress the system to get a temperature and then stick a second identical fan in and do the same test again.. that way I'll know which is running better etc, but also will be able to help others with the question (if there will be any.. thats another question) as I had.

    Thanks for the response
    i can test it tomorrow if you require?
    Post Counts and Other Rewards, Rules, Folding@Home, Fans: Push vs Pull vs Push-Pull, Corsair PSU OEMs.

    Quote Originally Posted by razer121 View Post
    Would you like me to enter you? it would be my pleasure
    TAKTAK.co.uk

  11. Received thanks from:

    Aden (29-12-2008)

  12. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Ipswich
    Posts
    236
    Thanks
    7
    Thanked
    10 times in 7 posts
    • Aden's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Biostar TP45 HP
      • CPU:
      • Q6600 @ stock
      • Memory:
      • 2 x 2gb Corsair XMS2 800mhz
      • Storage:
      • 2 x 500gb 7200.11
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 8600GTS @ Stock
      • PSU:
      • be-quiet 550watt
      • Case:
      • Antec 900
      • Operating System:
      • XP Media Center & Seven x64 7232
      • Monitor(s):
      • 24" acer @ 1920 x 1200 & 15" 1024 x 768
      • Internet:
      • Supanet supposed 8mb - 1.3mb

    Re: CPU Cooling - Thermalright True Black

    Quote Originally Posted by TAKTAK View Post
    i can test it tomorrow if you require?
    Would be nice, if your happy to ?


  13. #12
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Carlisle
    Posts
    4,121
    Thanks
    504
    Thanked
    368 times in 278 posts
    • matty-hodgson's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Abit IP35 Dark Raider
      • CPU:
      • Q6600 @ 4GHz (59'C Under a TRUE Black)
      • Memory:
      • 4GB OCZ DDR2 890MHz (5-4-4-15)
      • Storage:
      • Intel 80GB - Games. Intel 80GB - OS. 1TB Samsung - Storage.
      • Graphics card(s):
      • NVIDIA Zotac GTX 275: 728 Core, 1614 Shader, 1340 Memory
      • PSU:
      • Enermax MODU82+ 625w
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Samsung SM2343BW (2048x1152)
      • Internet:
      • Smallworld 4Mbps

    Re: CPU Cooling - Thermalright True Black

    Quote Originally Posted by Aden View Post
    Would be nice, if your happy to ?

    see, told ya that TAKTAK's always happy to help

  14. Received thanks from:

    Aden (29-12-2008)

  15. #13
    I R Toff Pandi! TAKTAK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Vergon6
    Posts
    7,410
    Thanks
    525
    Thanked
    995 times in 735 posts
    • TAKTAK's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI P55 GD65
      • CPU:
      • i7 860 @ 3.62GHz under an XSPC RASA
      • Memory:
      • 8GB 2133MHZ Corsair Vengeance
      • Storage:
      • 80GB Intel G2 SSD + 500GB + 640GB + 250GB WD AAKs + 2x1TB Samsung (1 Dead) + 500GB Maxtor
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA SSC GTX260 216 55nm under an EK FC260 GTX
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX620w
      • Case:
      • Corsair 800D, PA120.3 in the roof with 6 NF-P12s in Push-Pull
      • Operating System:
      • 7 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • 24" Yuraku YV24WBH1 - SA-LTM240M2-L01 Panel & 32" LCD HDTV (1080i) Digihome tesco special :D
      • Internet:
      • 76Mb Fibre

    Re: CPU Cooling - Thermalright True Black

    Quote Originally Posted by Aden View Post
    Would be nice, if your happy to ?

    bring it to my attention tomorrow if you hear no word from me, otherwise i may forget (i'm a very forgetful person )
    Last edited by TAKTAK; 04-01-2009 at 05:02 PM. Reason: removed template to tidy thread up
    Post Counts and Other Rewards, Rules, Folding@Home, Fans: Push vs Pull vs Push-Pull, Corsair PSU OEMs.

    Quote Originally Posted by razer121 View Post
    Would you like me to enter you? it would be my pleasure
    TAKTAK.co.uk

  16. #14
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Carlisle
    Posts
    4,121
    Thanks
    504
    Thanked
    368 times in 278 posts
    • matty-hodgson's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Abit IP35 Dark Raider
      • CPU:
      • Q6600 @ 4GHz (59'C Under a TRUE Black)
      • Memory:
      • 4GB OCZ DDR2 890MHz (5-4-4-15)
      • Storage:
      • Intel 80GB - Games. Intel 80GB - OS. 1TB Samsung - Storage.
      • Graphics card(s):
      • NVIDIA Zotac GTX 275: 728 Core, 1614 Shader, 1340 Memory
      • PSU:
      • Enermax MODU82+ 625w
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Samsung SM2343BW (2048x1152)
      • Internet:
      • Smallworld 4Mbps

    Re: CPU Cooling - Thermalright True Black

    Quote Originally Posted by TAKTAK View Post
    bring it to my attention tomorrow if you hear no word from me, otherwise i may forget (i'm a very forgetful person )
    post it notes!

  17. #15
    I R Toff Pandi! TAKTAK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Vergon6
    Posts
    7,410
    Thanks
    525
    Thanked
    995 times in 735 posts
    • TAKTAK's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI P55 GD65
      • CPU:
      • i7 860 @ 3.62GHz under an XSPC RASA
      • Memory:
      • 8GB 2133MHZ Corsair Vengeance
      • Storage:
      • 80GB Intel G2 SSD + 500GB + 640GB + 250GB WD AAKs + 2x1TB Samsung (1 Dead) + 500GB Maxtor
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA SSC GTX260 216 55nm under an EK FC260 GTX
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX620w
      • Case:
      • Corsair 800D, PA120.3 in the roof with 6 NF-P12s in Push-Pull
      • Operating System:
      • 7 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • 24" Yuraku YV24WBH1 - SA-LTM240M2-L01 Panel & 32" LCD HDTV (1080i) Digihome tesco special :D
      • Internet:
      • 76Mb Fibre

    Re: CPU Cooling - Thermalright True Black

    Quote Originally Posted by matty-hodgson View Post
    post it notes!
    i just forget to buy them
    Post Counts and Other Rewards, Rules, Folding@Home, Fans: Push vs Pull vs Push-Pull, Corsair PSU OEMs.

    Quote Originally Posted by razer121 View Post
    Would you like me to enter you? it would be my pleasure
    TAKTAK.co.uk

  18. #16
    Senior Member strike-down's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Devon
    Posts
    716
    Thanks
    76
    Thanked
    54 times in 54 posts
    • strike-down's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus Maximus VII Formula
      • CPU:
      • i7-4770k/H100i
      • Memory:
      • 16gb Corsair Dominator Plat 1800mhz
      • Storage:
      • 2x Samsung 850 pro RAID1, 2x HGST 4TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus GTX980 STRIX
      • PSU:
      • Corsair AX760i
      • Case:
      • CM Storm Trooper
      • Operating System:
      • Win7 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Acer XB270H
      • Internet:
      • EE Fibre

    Re: CPU Cooling - Thermalright True Black

    Quote Originally Posted by TAKTAK View Post
    i just forget to buy them
    E-Post its? No excuse for forgetting to download a widget for that

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Puzzle - which door?
    By Paul Adams in forum General Discussion
    Replies: 90
    Last Post: 23-11-2008, 06:05 PM
  2. Replies: 18
    Last Post: 29-05-2008, 03:20 PM
  3. Overclocking CPU and GFX results
    By Misklin in forum abit.care@HEXUS
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-01-2008, 12:49 AM
  4. Gigabyte Motherboard CPU Fan Delay?
    By UseItNow in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 30-08-2007, 11:03 PM
  5. Overclocking Question
    By planetgong in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 12-12-2005, 09:29 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •