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About LinkBacksHot swapping is a bit of a contentious issue I think.
You can hot swap drives, the connectors and such support it - but there are caveats, like the controller being happy with it, to consider.
Hot swapping is a bit of a contentious issue I think.
You can hot swap drives, the connectors and such support it - but there are caveats, like the controller being happy with it, to consider.
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oimi (24-03-2009)
So yeah, anyway...
I'm a bit confused about what the consensus view is of hardware? You have started to dispute hot swapping.
You all speak about the PSU causing damage to all hardware, but I've seen PSUs that allow you to supply power to a PC using a laptop style lead with a battery, which would also allows the function of USP.
Come on mate. You've been given alot of choices/options/configurations. Make a decision and pick one!Originally Posted by oimi
oimi (24-03-2009)
Dont bother with hot swapping, there is alot more to it than just swapping the drives. You need controllers that support it etc.
I would go for a motherboard with 6 sata ports and a pata port.
And if you want to have a proper backup system, a usb/esata connected external enclosure that has a separate PSU.
And if you're starting down the UPS road aswell, you could go over your £400 quite quickly.
Those PSU's you have seen are probably the pico-psu's designed for the mitx form factor, and for the server you're after, it aint gonna cut it.
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oimi (24-03-2009)
I'm sorry that I've been a bit hesitant, obviously I want to make the right choices!
Yes, I think it was a PSU for a mitx factor motherboard, so I suppose that would be right. I think that you are right about a motherboard with 6 sata ports and a pata? port. Difference between PATA, SATA and IDE? Are you referring to a board linked to previously?
What's the best alternative additional backup to use considering I have additional drives to use up, to insert into such a device.
Oimi - may I draw your attention to the thanks button on the threads - a number have people have been extraordinarily helpful (even by Hexus standards)and a little thanks goes a long way!
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oimi (24-03-2009)
I am indebted, all will be recognised when I have got the final result.Oimi - may I draw your attention to the thanks button on the threads - a number have people have been extraordinarily helpful (even by Hexus standards
Agreed, hot swapping is a fad. It's not something you do every day.
+1 on that. 6 SATA ports are more than enough.
External backup to USB HDD is spot on.
Agreed, you have to remember that this is a home server and not a corporate one! Hell I don't think we even have a UPS at work!
Again, agreed. A normal sized (ATX) PSU might take alot more room than you are willing to sacrifice, but it'll be worth it (in terms of stability). The CX 400W from Corsair, fits a home server role perfectly.
oimi (24-03-2009)
PSU: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150985
Looks good, think I will use 4 x 1TB HDDs.
Gives me enough space to add another HDD for the operating system and a PATA DVD-RW drive.
Which external HDD would you recommend for automatic backups of large capacities?
Ive heard some good things about that PSU. Cant remember the manufacturer though
I'm sure TAKTAK will come along a bit later with his little list.
You said you had 6 1tb hdds, so if you are using 4 in the main system, get any usb2 dual bay caddy that will take those 2 drives.
Something along the lines of:
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Icy-B...Backup-inc-Fan
There are probably better/cheaper alternatives. But that should give you an idea
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oimi (24-03-2009)
I hope that TAKTAK comes along with a list, like you say!Ive heard some good things about that PSU. Cant remember the manufacturer though
I'm sure TAKTAK will come along a bit later with his little list.
You said you had 6 1tb hdds, so if you are using 4 in the main system, get any usb2 dual bay caddy that will take those 2 drives.
Something along the lines of:
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Icy-B...Backup-inc-Fan
There are probably better/cheaper alternatives. But that should give you an idea
I suppose a dual caddy would do the trick! Although eSATA would be a better option than USB2.
This is nice: http://lime-technology.com/?page_id=50
So let me guess, the reason it is so expensive is because of the RAID controllers?
If you had to guess, what hardware would you say this was specifically (manufacturer and model name/number)?
Ah: MD-1510
The MD-1510 Media Storage Server provides unprecedented capacity for digital media storage. Using currently available 1.5TB SATA hard drives, over 21TB of protected storage is possible in a single system.
The MD-1510 includes 15 removable trays which can be fitted with any 3½" SATA or SATA II hard drive. In addition, an external 16th hard drive may be connected via a back panel eSATA port.
Electronics
* Supermicro C2SEE motherboard. This high-quality motherboard is based on the Intel ICH10 chipset and includes on-board VGA and GigEthernet.
* Intel Celeron E1200 1.6GHz dual-core processor with 800MHz FSB.
A Core 2 Duo processor with 1066MHz FSB is available as an option.
* 2GB 1066MHz DDR3 RAM operating in dual-channel mode.
4GB 1333MHz DDR3 is available as an option.
* A pair of Adaptec 1430SA PCI-E 4-lane SATA controller cards.
* A SYBA PCI-E single-lane SATA controller card.
Power Supply
* PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610 EPS12V power supply
* 610W Continuous @ 40C (670W Peak)
* +12VDC @ 49A (Large Single Rail)
* 80+ Certified (83% .99 Active PFC
* Automatic Fan Speed Control Circuit
Software
The MD-1510 includes Lime Technology’s unRAID Server OS. Built upon the latest linux kernel, unRAID Server OS is a combination of outstanding Open Source software packages and proprietary applications.
unRAID Server OS boots from an internally mounted 1GB USB Flash device; the hard drives are only used to store user data. All configuration data is also kept on the Flash device.
There are three chassis variations of the MD-1510 available:
MD-1510/LC
Built around Lian Li’s Lancool PC-K12B case, this rugged mid-tower case is made of steel with aluminum side and top panels. Other features include a built-in 3-speed fan controller for the drive cages and lockable front door. Matched with Supermicro CSE-M35T-1B 5-in-3 drive cages.
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MD-1510/LL
Built around Lian Li’s PC-A17B case, this all-aluminum mid-tower case is lighter in weight and has very good thermal dissipation qualities. Matched with Supermicro CSE-M35T-1B 5-in-3 drive cages. To reduce noise, an optional variable speed fan controller for the drive cages is also available.
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MD-1510/LI
Built around Lian Li’s PC-A17B case and matched with Icy Dock MB455SPF-B 5-in-3 drive cages, this mid-tower case includes all-aluminum components for the lightest possible weight and excellent thermal dissipation qualities.
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