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    i7 Upgrade Advice

    I am mid build of a W/C set-up. The plan was to make the build with my current E8400/MSI MoBo and then upgrade to i7 later. However the legnth of time it has so far taken has led me to start thinking am I better off putting the existing system together in my now redundant Stacker as my 2nd system and actually going for the i7 now and watercooling that - rather than ripping the build to bits in 6 months time and doing it all again when I upgrade.........................

    So this is where I am, I have looked at a couple of options and so far come up with this:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/EVGA-...-SATA-RAID-ATX

    or

    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MB-154-GI

    plus

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/6GB-(...-CAS-8-DHX-EPP

    or

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/12GB-...-Heat-Spreader

    12GB sounds sooo appealing

    and the obligatory i7 920DO

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Intel...MB-130W-Retail

    Quite honestly this is going to be an upgrade that I want to keep for quite a while - it would be nice to be able to upgrade the processor when the next generation come along, but with the experience I have had in the past I understand that that may not be possible

    The main thing is that this machine is primarily for gaming with a little photo editing at 1920x1200 WoW and FPS - I will be running a w/c'd GTX285 with it until such a time as the DX11 hardware has been out and at a sensible price. I run Vista 64atm and will be changing to Windows 7 when it arrives.

    What do you reckon guys and girls?

    EDIT: Forgot to mention - I wiould like to be able to put a decent o/c on - 4GHZ would be where I would like to get to.





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    Re: i7 Upgrade Advice

    CPU looks fine of course, both motherboards are no doubt okay, I know the Gigabyte is, but not seen much about that EVGA..... aesthetically it's gorgeous though.

    12GB will be overkill imo, nothing comes close to using my 6GB, and I do some photo editing too.... personally I'd get a £100 6GB kit, like the OCZ Reaper from OCUK, the Dominator is £20 overpriced imo.

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    Re: i7 Upgrade Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by GSte View Post
    CPU looks fine of course, both motherboards are no doubt okay, I know the Gigabyte is, but not seen much about that EVGA..... aesthetically it's gorgeous though.

    12GB will be overkill imo, nothing comes close to using my 6GB, and I do some photo editing too.... personally I'd get a £100 6GB kit, like the OCZ Reaper from OCUK, the Dominator is £20 overpriced imo.
    I agree it's the aesthetics of the EVGA that are drawing my attention - esp as my new build is based on black and white

    However I have been doing some more research and the praise is very good for the Asus Deluxe and the Rampage II extreme................





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    Re: i7 Upgrade Advice

    Yeah, I love my P6T Deluxe, there was an issue with 6 sticks of RAM, but I think it's been sorted with a BIOS update now.

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    Re: i7 Upgrade Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by GSte View Post
    Yeah, I love my P6T Deluxe, there was an issue with 6 sticks of RAM, but I think it's been sorted with a BIOS update now.
    What is the argument for spending the extra on the Rampage? - the reviews seem to state that the results from the deluxe are very similar.





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    Re: i7 Upgrade Advice

    Deluxe is pretty much the dogs bollocks. Why bother with 12GB or ram though

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    Re: i7 Upgrade Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Syd View Post
    What is the argument for spending the extra on the Rampage? - the reviews seem to state that the results from the deluxe are very similar.
    Not much really other than the voltage measurment points and fancy power/reset buttons (which the P6T Deluxe still has, they just look different).... oh, and the Rampage has the add-in soundcard as well.

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    Re: i7 Upgrade Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by nibbler View Post
    Deluxe is pretty much the dogs bollocks. Why bother with 12GB or ram though
    Just sounded good! I suppose 6GB is pretty massive though.

    Quote Originally Posted by GSte View Post
    Not much really other than the voltage measurment points and fancy power/reset buttons (which the P6T Deluxe still has, they just look different).... oh, and the Rampage has the add-in soundcard as well.
    Ok so as I already have a Xi-Fi theres no real reason to spend another £50! If only it looked like that EVGA





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    Re: i7 Upgrade Advice

    Syd, that motherboard from what I have read (the EVGA one) is also good in terms of overclockablity as well as looks. You will be happy with that board. The RAM you have chosen is also perfect, and will run fine at CAS 7 speeds if required. And of course, everyone knows the i7 920 D0 is easy to overclock, etc, etc...

    Did I read the correctly, you are going to use water on this? Good show. I'll like to see what kinda speeds you can get. I would expect a stable 4.4GHz with a good loop.
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    Re: i7 Upgrade Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by nightkhaos View Post
    Syd, that motherboard from what I have read (the EVGA one) is also good in terms of overclockablity as well as looks. You will be happy with that board. The RAM you have chosen is also perfect, and will run fine at CAS 7 speeds if required. And of course, everyone knows the i7 920 D0 is easy to overclock, etc, etc...

    Did I read the correctly, you are going to use water on this? Good show. I'll like to see what kinda speeds you can get. I would expect a stable 4.4GHz with a good loop.
    Can you point me to any reviews Night, I have only been able to find a user review (albeit quite a comprehensive one!)

    And you think that the 6GB kit I pointed (or similar) to will be a good pairing, ace.

    And yes you read correct - I will be water cooling it - but only CPU/GPU. I understand that it is not necessary to w/c the X58 mobos...............Well I hope not!!!!





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    Re: i7 Upgrade Advice

    Off hand,

    Dear god! that evga motherboard is sexy

    Ok I'll admit you shouldn't go on a motherboard based on looks, but it all depends on what the goals of the build is.
    As long as it's half decent and you're not going for overclocking records, it should be fine and will fit into your colour scheme well.

    However the gigabyte GA-EX58-EXTREME has got the built in northbridge water block, which is a major plus.

    Hard call


    EDIT: PS syd review of the evga board here
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mai...58-sli-le.html

    also here
    http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=6127850
    He got a 920 D0 to 4.5ghz stable on air.

    One negative about that board, 8pi EPS connector below the MOFETS not above on the edge of the board.
    But not as low down as on the MSI p35 neo2

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    Re: i7 Upgrade Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Pob255 View Post
    Off hand,

    Dear god! that evga motherboard is sexy

    Ok I'll admit you shouldn't go on a motherboard based on looks, but it all depends on what the goals of the build is.
    As long as it's half decent and you're not going for overclocking records, it should be fine and will fit into your colour scheme well.

    However the gigabyte GA-EX58-EXTREME has got the built in northbridge water block, which is a major plus.

    Hard call
    Yo Pob
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    Re the Mobo's The Merits I am currently considering are:

    EVGA is just so damn sexy
    Asus Deluxe is such a known and reliable quantity

    and TBH I think I can pass on the Gigabyte as most reviews state that w/cooling the mobo on an X58 is pretty unecessary for 4ghz o'clocks. Unless anyone knows any different.

    I just wish I could find a decent review of the EVGA..................





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    Re: i7 Upgrade Advice

    Just edited my post

    Xbit labs didn't like it too much, to many issues with the BIOS doing odd things, adjusting stuff automatically.

    Also spotted som,ething negative about the evga board, pci-e are x16 x8 x8 x4

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    Re: i7 Upgrade Advice

    Thanks for those links Pob

    They are however a little worrying and lead me more towards the Asus - some more research is nedded me thinks..................off to read my pile of CPC's





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    Re: i7 Upgrade Advice

    Hmmmmmmmmm everything so far points to the Asus P6 Deluxe or the chaepy gigabyte





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    Re: i7 Upgrade Advice

    Another vote for the P6T Deluxe.
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