HEXUS.bean - Intel Dual Core Extreme Edition

[iMc]

Its gonna be an extreme edition so your looking at around £600 upwards I believe.

[SilentDeath]

Dont quite see the point in dual core.. Otherwise why is noone rushing to by dual mobos and two good cpu's.. cant see it heping much for gaming unless its cheap...

What I want to see? Dual core gfx cards :rock:

[aidanjt]

XP Pro can run a dual Xeon (which of course can be HT'd) so that is fine - it will run with 4 virtual cores.

Also Microsoft are going to move on a per socket license rather than per core.

The most interesting thing is the fact that the P4 Chipsets which are currently out won't support it.

Microsoft increased this value to 4 virtual cpus after Intel included hypertreading support with their Xeon processors.. this is not a problem.

[TiG]

I'm with SilentDeath here, i can buy a dual CPU system now, does it benefit games at present ?, no not at all. So what are dual core CPU's going to do for me, as surely they would have the same limitations?

TiG

[Spunkey]

The reason Multi CPU systems arent good for games is because very few are written in such a way that utilises both cores. Actually its not just games, most programs dont. The only game in can think of that does have multi cpu optimisation is QuakeIII, and for apps its mostly high end 3D Rendering, music creation progs etc.

Anyway, the reason is simply because its only a very small minority of gamers who have a 2 CPU system, so whats the point of spending 000's of man hours writing code that 2% of your intended audience is going to utilise?
If/when dual core becomes de rigeur amongst entusiasts it'll be much harder for companies to ignore, and big performance gains should be seen, but you're old unoptimised programs probably wont see any improvement, other than anything pure clock power or pipeline optimisation would provide.

[phanteh]

If they bring a socket 939 AMD dual core processor out (no fanboyism here, I currently have a 939 and I'm not gonna buy a new system again if I can help it) I'll most probably upgrade. The potential in dual CPU system is rather good

[DavidM]

I believe 939 will have certainly Dual Core - and then the later socket M2 (2006 IIR?) .... I doubt it'll work its way down to 754 though.

[Rys]

754 physically doesn't have the pins to support two CPU cores, unfortunately.

[SilentDeath]

754 physically doesn't have the pins to support two CPU cores, unfortunately.

I expect youd know/be able to make a good guess what ati/nvidia have planned for the next year or so.. when do you think dual core gpu's will arrive..? or whats coming next? hoping the next ati one wont just be an overclocked x850

[aidanjt]

When Dual-Core CPU's come out mainstream, software developers will have NO option other than to learn how to use threads properly..

[exAndrzej]

Will have dual cores have enough processing power to make my solidiers smart enough to move out of the way when I open fire in Call of Duty ?

[Mesce]

Will AMD's chipsets share a similar fate? Hopefully not, infact it's looking like they won't.

Amd's dual core will come to the market after the dual core intels because Intel are releasing their new chipsets at the same time as the dual cores (as you know) but amd are working on a way for their current 939 boards to work with dualcore cpu's so that the amd users wont have to upgrade again.

IMO amd have shown their value once again by doing this and I feel sorry for the people who have bought an abit fatal1ty for £180 and the top asus one for similar prices when they won't support dual cores

[iMc]

Tis good of AMD, but only if the processers themselves are good. No point researching, developing and testing a way of making Dualies run on 939 if they are gonna be 15-20% slower/less efficient than they could be.

[DavidM]

Thats why Socket M2 is on the cards... to allow the usage of other memory formats. I wouldnt be surprised if it has redundancy built in for DDR3 as well!

[Xaneden]

Well, when they marketted some of their Xeons as their next gen P4s, that was a low point. Hopefully though, this will be a turning point for Intel, and they can get back on track.