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About LinkBacksWhat do you mean 'AMD chipset' drivers?.. ATI does the chipset, if thats what you mean. They both used ATI chipsets, I imagine they both used the same version.
What do you mean 'AMD chipset' drivers?.. ATI does the chipset, if thats what you mean. They both used ATI chipsets, I imagine they both used the same version.
Originally Posted by Agent
Quite an easy answer....... pride.
The desktop CPU Division of Intel is huge and quite rightly gets an absolutely huge chunk of the R&D with no expense spared on exploring new technologies.
The mobile CPU division on the other hand has a microscopic budget in comparison as normally you just get cut down desktop cpu's for mobiles (i.e the Pentium 4 M). It essentially feeds on the scraps of the Desktop boys.
So when the mobile division came up with the original pentium M it was done with such little money (as i believe its basically a rehash of the old Pentium 3/Pentium pro) the desktop boys were embarrassed that their little bro had effectively blew them away. This combined with the famous intel statements along the lines of "netburst is the win it will do 1 gazillion ghz" which they issued when the P4 was first released put intel in a difficult position. They had 2 options: admit they were wrong about netburst, admit their desktop boys had become too complacent or simply give the desktop boys sometime to prove themselves with the Pentium D's and further revisions of the P4.
Its easy to say it was obvious the whole time that the P-M was clearly superior without taking into account your reputation and internal politics. Plus at what was probably the ultimate time to decide P4 or P-M the A64 had not been launched and so why fix what wasnt broke? (as P4 whooped the AXP).
Good to see intel back on track though, 2 closely competing companies is only good news for the end user.
Rahul Sood's (VoodooPC guy) commentary is insightful. Looks like I wasn't the only one to notice Intel's BIOS shenanigans.
Nice link technojunkie... Its obvious Intel must have a hand in this., how silly will it look when the 2.67Ghz Conroe turns out to be lonly 2-5% faster than the current AMD crown. Exactly what Rahul said, swap in an ATI R580 with proper drivers.. (no no no intel.. no no no intel.. dun llieeee *black eye peas chorus*)
Me want Ultrabook
Thanks for correcting me. Although there is still AMD CPU driver that Intel likely did not install, the effect of that should not be drastic.
Are you guys saying this shootout was bias towards Intel ?
Good link Technojunkie
Ok completey off topic but has anyone noticed how many 1st time posters we have today in this thread? Welcome to Hexus guys
Thanks for that Technojunkie, interesting reading. I'm still excited about Conroe+Intels next gen...but yeah kinda puts it into perspective
No-o, on the opposite, Intel intentionally crippled its own system to catch AMD unawareAre you guys saying this shootout was bias towards Intel ?
Guys, have to say I am pleased to see all you new guys.
This isn't a review, it was a preview at what the performance is like, there are so many other things which can change.
The best thing? It means we have some exciting competition - and I hope AMD do have something to fight with.
Trouble is we took a shot at this - it was worth doing and it is interesting.
But, we are not saying buy one until we have had it in our labs - both systems look to have "flaws" but it shows Intel have something with some potential. you guys should look at it in the same way.
Lets try and keep it focused and lets not be narky at each other or act as fan boys and enjoy the AMD and Intel war ahead.
Remember - we had just under 2 hours with this kit and we had to do what we could
Tarinder will have a full review in due course (as soon as we can get the parts in and get the information clear and right)
For the record these were VERY early engineering samples
denka, I agree, its clear that the Intel rig was mild compaired to the high end AMD offerings.. All this 'but but but' stuttering trying to defend AMD is just stupid, Intel has taking the poll position by a massive margin.. AMD will in time bounce back with something else, its the name of the game.. We've just been too used to neck and neck micro jumps with AMD ahead on unoptimised code.
The AMD solution is avaliable to buy now - remember this.
We have a hot few months ahead of us - can't wait to see how it pans out
Yep AMD are up there already and have been for some time while Intel hid behind the screen fiddling with their new chips and muttering curse words about netburst...pipelines...on-board memory-controller and suchlike.
This is a definate step forward even if it is over-hyped and underhanded (as usual) by Intel.
I love my AMD chips...had a fair few A64's and all have performed nicely. I've also set up and played on a few Intel rigs and yes AMD has been more impressive in almost every way.
BUT having said "I LOVE AMD OMFG THEY PWN" I have to say: "Damn its nice to see Intel come back at them"
We need this to up the competition and really keep both firms innovating. AM2 will be nice...but I have a feeling Intels next gen will perhaps be under the hood of my next gaming rig
*I cannot be held to this in any way....I thankee
i have to say I disagree about AM2 - its just a CPU interfaceYep AMD are up there already and have been for some time while Intel hid behind the screen fiddling with their new chips and muttering curse words about netburst...pipelines...on-board memory-controller and suchlike.
This is a definate step forward even if it is over-hyped and underhanded (as usual) by Intel.
I love my AMD chips...had a fair few A64's and all have performed nicely. I've also set up and played on a few Intel rigs and yes AMD has been more impressive in almost every way.
BUT having said "I LOVE AMD OMFG THEY PWN" I have to say: "Damn its nice to see Intel come back at them"
We need this to up the competition and really keep both firms innovating. AM2 will be nice...but I have a feeling Intels next gen will perhaps be under the hood of my next gaming rig
Exactly, the only thing AM2 will bring is enough tracks to add a DDR2 memory controller to AMD64 chips.. its not a magic architecture improvement.
I never said it would be amazing...I just said:
@David - stop yanking my chain
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