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    Apparently they actually managed 45 minuites!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7887304.stm

    Five topless animal rights campaigners protested outside Selfridges in London urging it to stop selling foie gras.
    Stupid hippies.
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    Re: Apparently they actually managed 45 minuites!

    Peta are a bunch of idiots.
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    Re: Apparently they actually managed 45 minuites!

    phooey what?

    I tell you what, if they wanna sell off all their clothes and give me the proceeds, that will do a lot of good to help an animal, me.

    Am I the only one who doesn't even know, nor care, what foie gras is?

    *reads article*

    Oh holy cows of Mars, it's even crazier than I thought! (and btw, those bitches aren't topless (for the record, they are bitches for supporting this, not because they are women, the guy's a bitch too but at least he's living up to the topless monicker))

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    Re: Apparently they actually managed 45 minuites!

    Quote Originally Posted by transylvanic View Post
    Am I the only one who doesn't even know, nor care, what foie gras is?
    Its like a pate i suppose, only much smoother.

    Goes very well on warm toast, with game, or veal.

    Try it, i really like it myself, and think it would be quite funny if the peta campaign had turned someone onto what is a really nice food
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    Re: Apparently they actually managed 45 minuites!

    Foie Gras is an exceptionally cruel food product produced by force feeding. I don't agree with PETA on a lot of things but I won't eat it and though I may be stupid, I'm certainly no hippie!

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    Re: Apparently they actually managed 45 minuites!

    Quote Originally Posted by pollaxe View Post
    Foie Gras is an exceptionally cruel food product produced by force feeding. I don't agree with PETA on a lot of things but I won't eat it and though I may be stupid, I'm certainly no hippie!
    Same Here - stupid process that has no place in modern society, don't care what it tastes like.

    Force fed 2-5 times a day is horrendous.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foie_gras_controversy
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    Re: Apparently they actually managed 45 minuites!

    I'm pretty indifferent about Foie Gras as a foodstuff and in general I don't like the idea of force feeding an animal. However, I have read in a sunday paper magazine (a biased account no doubt) that the birds actually like it and will hurry over to the farmer at feeding time. Not sure if I believe that, but as always there are two sides to a story.

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    Re: Apparently they actually managed 45 minuites!

    Quote Originally Posted by Barakka View Post
    Same Here - stupid process that has no place in modern society
    Right, because modern society is so just and equitable, we can concern ourselves with the welfare of ducks. I guess justice should start with the ducks and work its way up to people?

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    Re: Apparently they actually managed 45 minuites!

    Quote Originally Posted by transylvanic View Post
    Right, because modern society is so just and equitable, we can concern ourselves with the welfare of ducks. I guess justice should start with the ducks and work its way up to people?
    Because since we haven't eliminated wanton cruelty everywhere, we shouldn't eliminate it anywhere?

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    Re: Apparently they actually managed 45 minuites!

    Oh, no, it's people taking their clothes off and protesting peacefully about gratuitous cruelty.

    Stupid bitches, stupid hippies, bunch of idiots, phooey, who cares. They're probably dangerous terrorists as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by transylvanic View Post
    Right, because modern society is so just and equitable, we can concern ourselves with the welfare of ducks. I guess justice should start with the ducks and work its way up to people?
    We have to start somewhere and how a society treats animals is a strong indicator of how it treats everything else.

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    Re: Apparently they actually managed 45 minuites!

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCrash View Post
    They're probably dangerous terrorists as well.
    What they are is inconsistent. If they care for fair treatment, ducks are the least of our worries, as a people or as a society. The irony is while they were looning around, there were probably 10 homeless people on the same street wishing they had more clothes.

    I would in no way argue against their right to protest. But I don't approve of their flaky cause and therefore speak out against it.

    Quote Originally Posted by nichomach View Post
    Because since we haven't eliminated wanton cruelty everywhere, we shouldn't eliminate it anywhere?
    I reckon we should eliminate the worst problems first. If you abuse an animal before you kill it, what does it matter? You still killed it and ate it. To me, whether an animal is force-fed before being turned into food or not is a distinction between shades of grey. On the other hand, whether people suffer and die unnecessarily is a pretty black and white issue. Fix the important stuff, then bring this to the table.

    Quote Originally Posted by pollaxe View Post
    We have to start somewhere and how a society treats animals is a strong indicator of how it treats everything else.
    I would respectfully disagree. Frankly, if I lived in a world where animal welfare was ensured, but human welfare was not, I would start throwing newborn kittens into rivers as a protest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pollaxe View Post
    Foie Gras is an exceptionally cruel food product produced by force feeding. I don't agree with PETA on a lot of things but I won't eat it and though I may be stupid, I'm certainly no hippie!
    I've done some research and it turns out Foie Gras is pretty much at the bottom of the 'how cruel did you have to be to an ikkle animal to get this grub on my plate' chart.

    See chart below!


    Grub. Ikkle Animal. Things Done To It. Cruelty Rating

    Bacon - Piggy Wiggy - Deaded in the head! - A Bajillion!

    Lamb Chop - Lamby Wamy - Deaded in the head! - A Bajillion!

    Burger - Moo Moo Cow - Deaded In The Head! - A Bajillion!

    Prawn Cocktail - Prawny Warny - All Deaded In The Head! - A Million Bajillion!

    Foie Grais - Geesey Weesey - Over Fed With A Tube - Forty Seven.


    Now, I'm not saying it's not cruel to force feed a goose, but surely it's not as cruel as killing a pig to make bacon? So bacon is much more cruel than foie grais. Why aren't PETA standing outside Maccy Ds with a big sign saying 'Did you know they have to kill a cow to get the burgers out?'

    Killing is more cruel than over feeding. PETA have everything the wrong way upside down around.
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    Re: Apparently they actually managed 45 minuites!

    Quote Originally Posted by transylvanic View Post
    I reckon we should eliminate the worst problems first. If you abuse an animal before you kill it, what does it matter? You still killed it and ate it. To me, whether an animal is force-fed before being turned into food or not is a distinction between shades of grey. On the other hand, whether people suffer and die unnecessarily is a pretty black and white issue. Fix the important stuff, then bring this to the table.
    So not until we've solved all the problems with modern society should we concern ourselves with Animal Cruelty ? I think it may take a while, and while life quality, longevity and treatment is constantly improving for humans we can completely disgregard that of animals ?

    Don't forget with this specific example we are referring to a process/procedure which is illegal in most western countries, so places import it from countries where it is still legal, even though there are now accepted humane ways of producing it.

    As for bacon being more cruel, the cruetly to the pig is a single shot to the head, then dead. The ducks and geese used for foie gras have a tube forced down their throat 2-5 times a day for up to 6 weeks causing them to gain so much weight they often get liver disease, They also frequently bleed to death as they have become so fat the tube has dislodged from the stomach and ripped the wind pipe open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirCop View Post
    Killing is more cruel than over feeding. PETA have everything the wrong way upside down around.
    You do realise that the geese are killed after the over feeding, don't you.....?? There's no surgery where they take part of the liver and Mr Goose goes off into the field with Mrs Goose until the next feed/surgery cycle....?

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    Re: Apparently they actually managed 45 minuites!

    Quote Originally Posted by AirCop View Post
    Killing is more cruel than over feeding.
    I'm pretty certain the goose is no longer alive when you eat the foie gras, so I think there must be an element of killing here too. I think by your scoring system this makes the cruelty one bajillion and forty seven for foie gras...

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