http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_po...ng_ban_4709258
Very interesting to see the vote result on the BBC too !
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_po...ng_ban_4709258
Very interesting to see the vote result on the BBC too !
I must say I find that poll hard to belive, most of the people I know smoke and so there is a fair amount of people with a vested intrest in not standing in the English weather more than they have to on a night out.
I would be in favour of a partial ban, and Id like to see provisions made to have smoking areas in pubs and clubs, i dont see why you should have to go outside to stand in the rain or snow to have a cig. If you have areas with non smoking then people have a choice.
Dont like passive smoke, move to the other section of a bar.
i particularly see this as a problem in clubs because you tend to stay in there for hours, you cant leave without paying to get back in. So what I have to go without smoking for 4 hours to enjoy a night at the club that probably wont be so enjoyable thinking about how much I want a cig?
Some people may see this as selfish, I see it as lost revenue as I wont be going out anymore and instead shall just do parties. When i go clubbing, the proportion of smokers goes up from what i see anywhere else, based on what I have seen there is a majority of smoking clubbers and im sure this will impact the club industry. it could be argued that more non smokers will then want to go clubbing It would be interesting to find out but really I dont see why you cant have one area designated smoking ( and likely be rammed full of people) and a non smoking area( deserted).
edit : Also wanted to add that the hypocricy is really unreal, they say they are doing this for health reasons to encourage more non smokers to drink in pubs and clubs, not a contradiction at all is it...?
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About time IMHO.
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Don't often post in here BUT... look at Ireland - don't know how many people have been to Dublin, but it certainly hasn't done any harm over there. Looking forward to enjoying going to the pub again tbh
Originally Posted by The Quentos
i cant wait to see the problems caused by people hanging around outside pubs/clubs drunk to have a cig.
i dont smoke myself but i think this law is ridiculous. more should be done to have separate smoking and non smoking areas and to protect workers I definetly agree. maybe they should also look at the issue of raise the smoking age for a start if they want to be more proactive..oh i forgot the great tax issue. I wonder if they will still sell them in the pub as thats just cruel ...
I'm a supporter of no change.
I am a fan of political debating and I watched this one online and thought it was great (particularly Steve Pounds humour ).
On a carefully considered note - A lot of people go out to pubs for a smoke, and do enjoy it. It seems a shame that we're being told what to do again. A partial ban is a good idea in theory but it would be difficult to work.
On a purely selfish note however - HOORAY!!! YES! THANK GOD FOR THAT! YES!!!!!!!!!
When I used to smoke I ageed with a blanket ban.
This is one of the few things I think labour got right. I dont see why everybody else sould have to put up with the stink and health risks smokers. 26% of people over 16 smoke right now. Hopefully that will go down further. Dont think they should ever ban it full stop though.
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full ban without question is taking the piss - pubs yes, clubs no. I'd like to see clubs come back in a big way - even if they are smokier.
No, I don't smoke, but I do disagree that private clubs have to exclude smokers too.
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Should ban smoking in a ALL public places. I have a right to not breathe some drug addicts fumes when I walk down the street.
Hang on, you are FOR the legalisation of ALL (currently) illegal drugs, but you think it's 'about time' that smoking is banned?Originally Posted by DaBeeeenster
Huh?
Originally Posted by Big RICHARD
In that case, get out of your car, I dont want to breath in your fumes. I want a total ban on cars. Cars that cause more health problems than second hand smoke.
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So do I, because car drivers are not a miniority like smokers are.
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hmm.. the thing is, a total ban DOES work - i've been to a few places with it implemented (among which, toronto) and the atmosphere in the clubs felt sooo nice.. it was different, but imo better. and they didnt appear to have any problems with people smoking outside, getting a stamp and coming back in.. i'm not a smoker (never have been) but dont have particularly strong views on this - however i'd like to see it happen, and i think its pretty much inevitable.
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I agree completely with a smoking ban, i'll finally get an evening out where i don't have to look dissaprovingly at my mates that do smoke. Besides i don't understand why people smoke in the first place when there are all the health risks that go with it, and before anyone says anything i don't drink that much either, i don't see the need for drinking and getting wasted either to have a good night out, some of my best nights out have been when i haven't been able to drink because i've had to drive.
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