So I build me a llano system :)

[Sputnik]

This is the stock heatsink - rubbish.

Dimensions:

Width - 76mm, Depth - 68mm, Height - 50mm (including fan)

That is exactly the same cooler as my 720be came with and yes it was awful, High temps and noisy.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The Intel stock cooler seems much better in comparison TBH.

[dangel]

The Intel stock cooler seems much better in comparison TBH.

Very true. It's been my only disappointment from AMD on this system - it's simply far too weak IMHO. Remember that 65C is peak for four cores (not the GPU too) on a mild summers night - that ain't good.

OTOH I have much love for the system as it is now so... budget for a decent cooler.

[shaithis]

Nice little system, I also suspect it would make an awesome HTPC

As for the heatsink, it's a shame but it does give you incentive to go for something nice, as the difference will be noticeable.....although I must say the fan on my Shuriken died a few days ago

[scaryjim]

Looks to be identical to the one that came with my Sempron 140 too. Amazingly enough, it does a decent job on a 45W CPU - particularly when it's heavily undervolted

[dangel]

Nice little system, I also suspect it would make an awesome HTPC

As for the heatsink, it's a shame but it does give you incentive to go for something nice, as the difference will be noticeable.....although I must say the fan on my Shuriken died a few days ago

Eeek! Well I saw I 20C drop changing - dramatic!

Looks to be identical to the one that came with my Sempron 140 too. Amazingly enough, it does a decent job on a 45W CPU - particularly when it's heavily undervolted

TDP is 100W for this though - that's why i got worried..

[mycarsavw]

Stripped RAM and coolers...this thread is so mucky. Thankfully the case snapped me back to reality - shame on you Sir!

I could put it all in a nice () case, bung a DVB-S2 card in and have a Freesat receiver cum HTPC in t'bedroom.

[dangel]

Stripped RAM and coolers...this thread is so mucky. Thankfully the case snapped me back to reality - shame on you Sir!.

Ah we love it really - it has very good cooling (giant blue fan on top - the mesh I added to catch dust), sides and top and easily removable and the entire MB is on a slide out tray (slides out from the back so you can leave all the cables plugged in). The only thing I don't like is how flimsy the metal is but it was dirt cheap so there we are..

[mycarsavw]

I can't love everything, you'd think I was some weird stalker after a bromance so I had to at least find one thing to criticise

Have you had a chance to try any HD footage on it yet?

[dangel]

I can't love everything, you'd think I was some weird stalker after a bromance so I had to at least find one thing to criticise

Have you had a chance to try any HD footage on it yet?

Not yet - are you interested in hardware accelerated playback (GPU) or just CPU?

[Sputnik]

Try some bitcoin mining with it

[Disturbedguy]

Dangel, if you dont mind me asking. What was the cost of this PC?

If not too expensive something like this could be ideal as a replacement for my little sisters PC..she only really browses the web and watches crap on YouTube

[mycarsavw]

Not yet - are you interested in hardware accelerated playback (GPU) or just CPU?

If I do build one, I think it'll mainly be used to watch FreesatHD so I'm going to guess that'll be GPU rather than CPU?

[dangel]

Dangel, if you dont mind me asking. What was the cost of this PC?

If not too expensive something like this could be ideal as a replacement for my little sisters PC..she only really browses the web and watches crap on YouTube

Some parts were recycled but basically -
- mb was 80quid
- processor ~100quid
- memory 25-30quid

The rest was already there - so a fairly cheap upgrade especially as I sold the old mb/cpu/ram for 100quid. Obviously I didn't need a graphic card either..

If I do build one, I think it'll mainly be used to watch FreesatHD so I'm going to guess that'll be GPU rather than CPU?

Can be either - in my opinion as a HTPC builder the APU can easily cope on just CPU alone (4x2.9ghz cores) and the GPU side is certainly up to it too. I have a core2duo (2 cores) doing HD decoding via CPU now, and have built an Ion system using GPU (with the incredible weak atom processor) which does 1080p flawlessly for exmaple. GPU grunt might be more power efficient (i'd have to test it) but either will work with this APU IMHO.

Most things support ATI stuff now (used to be things like corecodec didn't) so I don't think it's the issue it once was (feel free to correct me those with experience).

[scaryjim]

... GPU grunt might be more power efficient ...

If the software supports dedicated hardware acceleration via UVD3 (and as you say most should) it won't even touch the shaders, and should be incredibly power efficient, as the entire APU except the UVD3 block will be pretty much idle, and therefore power-gated.

[dangel]

If the software supports dedicated hardware acceleration via UVD3 (and as you say most should) it won't even touch the shaders, and should be incredibly power efficient, as the entire APU except the UVD3 block will be pretty much idle, and therefore power-gated.

Yup, sounds sensible - TBH I've only bother on an Ion system (because the atom is too weak). I really must get around to enabling it via CUDA on my own HTPC (I have a long list of things to do @ home plus a wanton need to 'kill stuff' in games )

I was thinking of going 64bit on the HTPC this weekend actually, so I'll look at it then (I do have a licence for CoreCodec but i'm also tempted to try it via ffdshow) er.. maybe