Linux code help!

[nvening]

I wanna have a look at he linux code i was told to download it from http://www.kernel.org/ but i cant find the code that i can view, like i would view HTML code right? On not pad? lol, sound increasingly stupid. Just wanna have a look at it
thx
P.S. can this forum use html? cant seem to get it to even though others seem to.

EDIT: ok, i found the code but how do i view it on xp ?

[Norky]

Download the latest kernel and extract it to /usr/src/

I really don't know what you're looking for though if you don't know how to extract a tarball.

[nvening]

so i cant do it on xp, do i see code like html?

[Norky]

You should be able to by opening the files in something like notepad.

[nvening]

Thisis what i got when i opened it with notepad http://www.freewebs.com/nvening/linux%20code.JPG
is that right?

[Norky]

Yes, that's it. Code is complicated eh?

[nvening]

WTF!!!!!!!! LOL. It does not seeem to follow any patten or anything, got any sites that would explain the real basics abt what the hell it means, definately nothing like the tags in html lol. Is that what all program code is like? netscape windows etc. What about java and C+?

[Norky]

I was joking. If you don't know how to extract the file then I don't think you stand a chance of learning the code.

[nvening]

FEW! Ok, ok. I extracted it and there are loads of folders, i guessed it was kernal so i went in that. There are loads of notepad files what one! ahhhh, i havnt even got onto the code yet! lol

EDIT: well this is what i opend first, this right, looks it: http://www.freewebs.com/nvening/linux%20code.JPG

[Norky]

FEW! Ok, ok. I extracted it and there are loads of folders, i guessed it was kernal so i went in that. There are loads of notepad files what one ahhhh, i havnt even got onto the code yet! lol

What exactly are you trying to do? The Kernel won't just be like one nice neat HTML file, if you think about it your going all the way down to the core hardware of the computer.

[directhex]

WTF!!!!!!!! LOL. It does not seeem to follow any patten or anything, got any sites that would explain the real basics abt what the hell it means, definately nothing like the tags in html lol. Is that what all program code is like? netscape windows etc. What about java and C+?

it's c. hence the '.c' extension on files.

and use wordpad, or preferably an editor like context. things look particularly bad for you because windows and unix have different ways of starting new lines in text files - windows isn't seeing unix line breaks.

bear in mind you're looking at over 200 meg of pure operating system source code. it's not a trivial hello world app. it's ALL linux kernel source code. except for a few bits of documentation, anyway

and any app written in C will look like that. download any source code from sourceforge.net, it doesn't become easy all of a sudden. modern netscapes should be similar to mozilla, so take a look at the source on mozilla.org

[nvening]

Im not trying to learn it, i just have never really seen proper code, just html. Also, so i understand, html is read by the browser. Is the browser read kinda by the OS? But if thats true then what the hell reads the OS?

[directhex]

there are two ways of dealing with source code. you can interpret it, whereby a program reads the text & acts upon it (html, perl, python, php, jsp). or you can have compiled code, whereby the text code is turned into program code (c, c++, visual basic), in a form which the computer can understand. there are blurred lines in this, but that's the gist.

usually, only the kernel (e.g. the linux kernel or nt5 kernel) are written close to the system, once the kernel is in place it can have added layers of abstraction put on top - eventually allowing applications to be run and multitasked.

[ikonia]

nevening, may I suggest taking a step back.

Learn how to use an operating system before trying to read the code that makes it work

Thats not a dig but the fact that you are stuggling to understand what the code should look like eg: "will it look like html" and the fact that your stuggling to un-tar it suggests your way over your head.

you seem quite familier with windows perhaps taking a basic look at visual basic may give you a bit of a grounding or an introduction to code in general.

[nvening]

Lets get this straight. I just wanted to look at the code to actually see what it is all about, cause people say that html is not proper code (thats y i didnt no if it would look at all like html) and thats all i know. I can use windows fine and because i have not come across that file extention before i did not know how to open it. Because i new code wes just text i tryed to open it with note pad but that did not work, but i didnt no that at first (due to some sarcastic comments lol). I soon learned after a quick google that the file was like a unix .zip so i downloaded a program which could decompress it. If you can think of a better way i would like to hear it.

[directhex]

some simple My First Programs in a language like Java would be a good step.