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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    According to this article Trinity will have 25% greater CPU performance and 50% higher GPU performance:

    http://pcper.com/news/Cases-and-Cool...wered-Notebook

    I suspect they must be referring to the increase in compute performance of the new IGP.

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    Are they referring to the low-power 17W chip there? Not sure if the update is updating the previous update. My head hurts...

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by watercooled View Post
    Are they referring to the low-power 17W chip there?
    AFAIK,it probably refers to the top end models.

    Quote Originally Posted by watercooled View Post
    Not sure if the update is updating the previous update. My head hurts...
    Yes.

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    Very very very impressive if it is indeed the 17w variant... that puts it squarely at Intels i7 2677M chip! I bet the i7 gets destroyed aswell since its only a dual core (the AMD is more of a 3 core than quad but overall ) and intel GPUs are terrible, think ive found my replacement laptop if its cheap enough!.

    AMD should try and grab a similar ultrabook idea as with that performance i can see most OEMs switching ship immediately!
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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    Some more refined performance numbers for Trinity:
    http://www.hardware.fr/news/12078/ce...u-trinity.html

    From the article:

    "AMD told us that three formats were planned, adding details about the level of performance is expected to approximate that Trintiy from Llano:

    - Desktop: 65W and 100W, 15% at 30% CPU and GPU at compared to Llano desktop
    - Mobile: 35W, 25% level CPU and GPU + 50% level compared to mobile Llano (35 and 45W)
    - Ultra-(BGA): 17W, performance similar to mobile Llano 35W"

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    Some more details about the Bulldozer replacement:

    http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2012/2...rocessors.html

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    Quad channel RAM and 5 Modules eh?

    Interesting...

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    The Microsoft hotfix is now available:

    http://www.legitreviews.com/news/12253/

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    BTW,when I read some threads I do believe the internetz seems to have too many idiots:

    http://www.overclock.net/t/1198393/a...heduler-update

    Anyone who thought the hotfix would improve multithreaded performance significantly has got the brain of retarded ferret. It has been known for months it would be lightly threaded applications which would see an improvement. Now its meant to improve multi-threaded performance?? Isn't the lightly threaded performance what all these people were concerned about, and now all of sudden multi-threaded performance improvements are more important?? WTF??

    Personally I want the next Bulldozer software update to give it epic coffee making abilities. If it cannot do that I will hit every Bulldozer CPU I see with a wet fish.
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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    Wonder if any sites will bother with updating the benchies?

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    TBH,how can you blame forums when you get utter crud like this:

    http://www.techpowerup.com/158623/AM...provement.html

    The review website quoted test games without any mention of the test system.

    Most of those applications are multi-threaded. The few which are not are some of the games and even then some of those might be GPU limited. Another aspect they need to consider is Turbo. They need to do the tests with both Turbo enabled and disabled too. Even if IPC is increased,the CPU might shift into lower or higher Turbo states more often,so that is important effect to study. Power consumption also should be investigated as idle power consumption should drop too.

    If so called tech websites don't even understand what the hotfix is for,then how can a whole load of non techy enthusiasts who rely on them for guidance also realise what it is meant to do?

    I despair at the level of tech reporting nowadays - I could do a better job and I am not a media person,engineer or software chap. Thats how bad it is!
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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    Wow, it showed an improvement on RE5.....I am quite surprised. I cannot remember seeing another game that scaled as well with CPU cores and frequency.....which kind of flies in the face of what we were expecting the patch to change....
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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    Wow, it showed an improvement on RE5.....I am quite surprised. I cannot remember seeing another game that scaled as well with CPU cores and frequency.....which kind of flies in the face of what we were expecting the patch to change....
    It is probably more a case of RE5 using the first four threads heavily and then using subsequent threads less intensively.

    However,we still don't know who Turbo Core is being affected by the patch.

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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    I like how they glossed over the > 6% improvement in the lightly threaded run of Cinebench 11

    EDIT: and the > 10% gains in the 4 thread RE5 tests - more than twice the gain in the 8 thread tests...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    I like how they glossed over the > 6% improvement in the lightly threaded run of Cinebench 11

    EDIT: and the > 10% gains in the 4 thread RE5 tests - more than twice the gain in the 8 thread tests...
    But...must...hate...Bulldozer....otherwise....e-peen...will be....REDUCEDIFIED....by..oh noes...0.12342234%...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!



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    Re: AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    But...must...hate...Bulldozer....otherwise....e-peen...will be....REDUCEDIFIED....by..oh noes...0.12342234%...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


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