Which car are you MOST likely to see rammed up your exhaust pipe on a Motorway?

[sleepyhead]

Well there is a slight exception to the german rule, if its anything special, e.g GTI, R32, RS4, M5 etc, then drive with much more care and attention, and seem to also have a genuine interest in cars

Hmm...I maybe the exception here as I find the ones who obscenely speed and try and ram you off the roads ARE RS4s, M3s, M5s, Golf R32s...maybe it's me or where I drive.

Either way, it doesn't matter what the car is, it's the personality of the driver. I've seen cars ranging from Fiestas to Bentlys to Evos in various states from stock to 'modified' belting it in the outside lane being idiotic.

I also see people being idiotic in the inside lane of a motorway doing 50mph or less...(this is in good driving conditions).

Some of the most courteous (and safe) drivers have been a massive mixture from stock cars to 'sports' cars to highly tuned cars. On a regular basis I'll see S13s, Skyline R32s/33s, Evos, scoobies doing there or thereabouts the speed limits...why speed when your car sticks out like a sore thumb?

Just came to mind, the worse offenders are ALWAYS rep mobiles...which are low end 3 series BMWs and the ilk (vectras, modeos etc. etc. not just German mobiles). Argh...Passat drivers... :shudder:

/quit rant

[Tumble]

Usually a 3-series here too... and not ALL white vans are driven by nuggets... I drive mine sensibly .

[Howard]

I really can't pinpoint a single marque. I find it's increasing numbers by the day They certainly won't get me moving any faster though if I'm rightfully in whatever lane. They can be bloody patient, or overtake me

[Lowe]

Other people catch you up...?

The only thing I get on my bumper is a Volvo with flashing lights.

j/k officer.

No Motorway fun for me because I'm stuck on a push bike...

[usxhe190]

none, because if you get, you are going slow

[Barakka]

TBH the Golf doesn't surprise me, my 2004 Golf 2.0 TDI was a nightmare for this mostly because you were usually going a lot faster than you thought, but also because the car was too smart you didn't know if you were doing anything wrong.
Let me clarify, you drive too fast and take a roundabout too quickly the car corrected it and an orange light came on the dash. If you braked hard on the motorway in rain, the light came on and it slowed down. Don't get me wrong you got the feeling something was happening but you didn't really know what it was - the car just corrected any issues. In the end I called it the "oops, you've been a d**k" light.

Problem was this led to a false confidence, you could drive up someone's exhaust pipe on the motorway because you knew the car would fix everything and every time you looked down you nearly had a heart attack at how fast you were going. The Golf felt the same doing well over a ton as it did doing 40 - basically nothing. When the Golf went back and I got the BMW it all changed, the orange light on this one is the "ooops, bye bye back-end" light. I nearly lost it twice in the first week after going straight from the Golf and I really do blame the Golf it made me lazy.

[Optical668]

Im a reg motorway user, i use the M4 twice everyweek to get from MK to Bristol and i can honestly say its BMWs...

[Funkstar]

In the end I called it the "oops, you've been a d**k" light.

I like it. Mine showed it's head today. Bad mood combined with cold tyres and damp roads tent to light it up

[kopite]

I have that same light its called ESP in the pugs

Cam on a few times lately even had it on in third gear due to the icy roads

[MonkFish]

In my personal experience i find Audi A3 drivers the worst for tailgating, weaving through traffic etc.

[Saracen]

In my experience, it tends to be wannabe cars, rather than a particular marque, though I'd agree BMW are right up there. Yeah sure, you'll sometimes get the performance variants (M-series, etc) with a pillock driving, but it seems to me to usually be those with more mundane (probably company) versions that seem to think, or wish, they were driving M3s or M5s (etc) that do it.

A couple of years ago, I watched an M5 come aggressively up behind a estate (Volvo, I think), sit about 3-feet from the bumper and flash his lights. Imagine my delight when the Volvo lit up his "Police - STOP" sign and pulled the pillock in the M5 over.

[staffsMike]

A couple of years ago, I watched an M5 come aggressively up behind a estate (Volvo, I think), sit about 3-feet from the bumper and flash his lights. Imagine my delight when the Volvo lit up his "Police - STOP" sign and pulled the pillock in the M5 over.

oooo you never mess with volvos especially on the motorway

I have another to add to the list. New range rovers. Had 3 of them rubbing my bumper the other day.

I suppose this thread should contain a little bit about lane discipline. I'm sure everyone here is perfectly responsible with regard to what lane they should actually be in but I have occasionally got closer than I would prefer to register my frustration with drivers staying in outer lanes when it compeletly unnecessary.

This lead's onto a question, is it still considered undertaking when you are in lane 1 and the annoying lane hogger is in lane 3?

[J4MES]

Didn't you have an impreza before though? Your sins are forgiven

It's hibernating (18mpg and 700 Xmas miles do not a season of goodwill make)... and I don't think I drive thatdifferently in either (although the driving the Golf, you need to keep your momentum up on the M/Way)...

Managed to aviod all the traffic yesterday by using Roman roads to get home - not a bit of traffic to tailgate :disappointed:

[GoNz0]

if your in the outside lane and there is room to pull over, then pull over instead of pissing off the guy behind.

[Saracen]

if your in the outside lane and there is room to pull over, then pull over instead of pissing off the guy behind.

I completely agree .... subject to defining how much room is "room to pull over".


At one extreme, you get the bloke sitting in the outside lane when there's nothing in front of him, in sight, in any lane. And as far as we know, nothing in front of him on the same continent. But he still won't pull over.

At the other extreme, you can be doing 80 in the outside lane, with fairly heavy traffic, and the bloke behind expects you to pull over because you happen to be passing a gap in the middle lane that's six inches longer than your car.

Obviously, the vast bulk of experiences will be somewhere between these extremes.

If there's a reasonable gap, and if circumstances permit, I'll pull over regardless of whether anyone behind is trying to go faster. That is, I'd pull over anyway, even if there was nobody behind.

But, if I'm in a stream of traffic, all doing about the same speed, and the bloke behind wants to get past because it gains him a bit of road, one car length at a time, then if I do pull over, I stand a decent chance of getting stuck in a slower-moving lane when I catch up to the next guy in the middle lane in 30 seconds time. I'll then have a considerable job getting back out into the outside lane and end up going slower than I wanted to or needed to, had I just stayed put. Under that kind of situation, and providing I'm doing at least the legal speed limit, I'm not pulling over just because there's a gap where it's feasible I that I could have.

I'm also aware that motorway lane-changing is a manoeuvre that is higher risk than simply staying in your own lane, so I'll do it when I consider it to be safe, and that isn't determined by some impatient git in the car behind that's determined to break the speed limit by a little bit more than everyone else in the outside lane is already managing.

In other words, yes, pull over "when there's room", but when that is is not a straight-forward issue and isn't determined by someone else's impatience.

[RavenNight]

Provided you're doing the limit, is there any real need to pull over?